Published May 18, 2018
grand_theft_avocado
31 Posts
Hi, I'm new to this forum, so I apologize if I am posting in the wrong place/way.
Disclaimer:
I have read many old posts from people in similar situations as me (got a B.S. degree, trying to switch to nursing, etc.), but they have not been very helpful because they were either outdated or the information was confusing.
Main questions:
I have no idea where I stand, or whether any of the extracurricular stuff I did in college matters/translates well into a nursing track.
If you read everything up to here, thank you so much :') I would be very appreciative of any advice.
xxstarrynitesxx
365 Posts
If money is an issue, the best option may be for you to look into going into a CC. You will graduate with an ADN. As you will still be Registered Nurse after passing the NCLEX, you may be able to find an employer who will cover the costs of you going back to pursue a BSN. This is not a guarantee, but the money you will save pursing an ADN can help save the piggy bank. Once you start working, you may be able to pay out of pocket after working and saving up.
In my experience thus far with applying, most schools focus a large amount of points towards the GPA of the applicant. The school I want to get into has almost have their points coming from A&P I/II, Microbiology, and general education GPA. Another large chunk of the points comes from taking the entrance exam. There are extra points awarded for those with a BS/BA, prior medical experience, knowing more than one language, etc.
I am not sure where you are in CA (some people move after graduating),but I feel like there are options in SoCal. This option may take a bit more time working towards your ultimate goal, but I personally do not have much experience or knowledge about other option I feel like this could help save you some money and will get you working as an RN relatively quickly. Best wishes!
meanmaryjean, DNP, RN
7,899 Posts
My best and first advice for people like you is this: Spend some time shadowing a nurse. If he/she does not sit down/ pee/ eat in that 12-14 hours, then neither do you. THEN decide on a path moving forward.
NO SNARK INTENDED: We often see these types of posts from people who hold degrees that do not lead to jobs. (Psych, biology and kinesiology are the three I most often see.)
For many of them, nursing is not an intentional choice, but more an act of desperation ("Yikes, I've got a degree now and it just now occurred to me I wouldn't be awarded a job upon completion!")
Be intentional about your pursuit of nursing. It is wicked hard, demanding and not for everyone. Best wishes
elkpark
14,633 Posts
So, what happened to your med school plans, which is what it looks like you were pursuing? You're obviously not one of the people posting here who "decided" s/he wanted to be a nurse rather than a physician about the same time s/he realized that a 2.2 GPA wasn't going to get her/him into any legitimate medical school. I agree with meanmary about investigating nursing further before rushing into a program. And, no snark intended, if it was you with the life-or-death medical situation lying in the hospital bed, would you want your nurse to be someone who purposely sought out the "quickest and least expensive" nursing education? Remember (or look up) the "Iron Triangle," aka "Triple Constraint."
Welcome to allnurses, and best wishes for your journey!
monkeyshines, ASN
77 Posts
I know you hate to hear "it depends on the school", but it really really does. I have 4 or 5 in my area that I'm considering, and every single one does their applications differently. The ADN program that I most want to get into only does GPA, prereq GPA, and TEAS scores. They don't care at all if you have volunteer time, and there is no place for it on your application. The accelerated BSN that I've considered has overall GPA, two letters of recommendation, TEAS scores, volunteer time, interviews, and about 4 more prereq classes than the ADN program. It really does range.
You often hear that ADN is faster than BSN, with accelerated BSN being the fastest option. This really does range as well. The biggest kicker for me is which prereqs are required. The accelerated BSN programs are technically faster, but it would take me another year to get all of the prereqs in, and therefore ends up being longer (and way more expensive).
So yeah. Look at your options. If you're in SoCal, it might be hard to get in anywhere, and moving might be in your best interest.
LilyRN99
151 Posts
My best and first advice for people like you is this: Spend some time shadowing a nurse. If he/she does not sit down/ pee/ eat in that 12-14 hours, then neither do you. THEN decide on a path moving forward. NO SNARK INTENDED: We often see these types of posts from people who hold degrees that do not lead to jobs. (Psych, biology and kinesiology are the three I most often see.)For many of them, nursing is not an intentional choice, but more an act of desperation ("Yikes, I've got a degree now and it just now occurred to me I wouldn't be awarded a job upon completion!")Be intentional about your pursuit of nursing. It is wicked hard, demanding and not for everyone. Best wishes
OMG! This describes me. I applied to a physician assistant program and an RN program at county college. I went to CC and got my RN. Most of the pre-req classes were waved due to my BS. I got my BSN online. I think before you persue a master's, get some experience as an RN to make sure you like the nursing field. My job cancelled tuition assistance right before I needed it. Bummer!
Rionoir, ADN, RN
674 Posts
CRNA programs require 1-2 years of ICU experience as an RN. Those direct entry programs are typically either NP or clinical something or other. Also, just a heads up you probably wouldn't be able to work during CRNA school. At all.
If money is an issue, the best option may be for you to look into going into a CC. You will graduate with an ADN. As you will still be Registered Nurse after passing the NCLEX, you may be able to find an employer who will cover the costs of you going back to pursue a BSN.
As of now, between time & money, time is the bigger concern for me, which is why the accelerated programs I found look so enticing to me. They seem to take less time than an ADN (I saw ADNs take 2 years), so I can get a job faster. I am also scared by the idea of doing ADN > work > do employer-sponsored BSN, because that sounds like the BSN would be an entire new 4-year gig and make zero use of my existing BS. If my assumption is correct, that would become even more time consuming.
I am very pressured to lock down on a career and start earning money asap because the parent who is the sole income earner in my family must retire soon (severe illness), and I must step in to provide. Due to my useless academic background, I am having trouble doing that, and my bigger fear of dragging down my family further is coming true. Honestly, this is all making me suicidal, and I just want to find a solution.
I see what you mean. To clarify my 1st post description, the 4 years I spent volunteering/interning at my school's hospital was basically working closely under direct supervision of a nursing team. I got to see what they do (day+night shift), and I want to do what they do.
I also have several relatives who are nurses (nurse managers now) and they have told me about their jobs for as long as I can remember. At first, I did not take their advice to heart because I was already stuck in a BS, not a real BSN program, so I thought it was too late for me to change tracks. However, my new situation is changing everything, and I realize that it is now or never.
So, what happened to your med school plans, which is what it looks like you were pursuing? You're obviously not one of the people posting here who "decided" s/he wanted to be a nurse rather than a physician about the same time s/he realized that a 2.2 GPA wasn't going to get her/him into any legitimate medical school.
I am not sure if I understand your post (though I thank you for replying). English is not my 1st language, so a lot of times I don't catch wordplays or subtleties/undertones.
I am not posting about "medical school." My intended question is about getting into nursing. But to address your point, my original academic goal was becoming an animal researcher, but I am obviously backing out of that because
Did your reply mean that I don't qualify for nursing because I should have gotten a 2.2? I am not sure I understand, sorry.
And, no snark intended, if it was you with the life-or-death medical situation lying in the hospital bed, would you want your nurse to be someone who purposely sought out the "quickest and least expensive" nursing education?
That is an interesting point. I have actually been hospitalized for a week for a life-death condition, and I spoke with one of the nurses. She had switched careers after quitting the film business, and became a nurse instead. She was very kind, and I did not feel that she was any less compassionate or professional than her colleagues.
I know you hate to hear "it depends on the school", but it really really does. I have 4 or 5 in my area that I'm considering, and every single one does their applications differently. The ADN program that I most want to get into only does GPA, prereq GPA, and TEAS scores. They don't care at all if you have volunteer time, and there is no place for it on your application. The accelerated BSN that I've considered has overall GPA, two letters of recommendation, TEAS scores, volunteer time, interviews, and about 4 more prereq classes than the ADN program. It really does range.You often hear that ADN is faster than BSN, with accelerated BSN being the fastest option. This really does range as well. The biggest kicker for me is which prereqs are required. The accelerated BSN programs are technically faster, but it would take me another year to get all of the prereqs in, and therefore ends up being longer (and way more expensive).
I am starting to see what you mean about how everything varies. I was getting scared looking at all the sites, and there was no set standard. That is really making it hard to picture a clear timeline/plan of how to do things.