Published Sep 18, 2008
David Offenbaker, BSN, RN
1 Article; 210 Posts
I just phoned the Texas BON of they told me that Excelsior is being evaluated due to their low number of clinical hours. I was advised that the decision on this could be within the year.
Dave
Lunah, MSN, RN
14 Articles; 13,773 Posts
Sounds like the anti-EC campaign/agenda is expanding. Hmmph.
rnlately
439 Posts
I guess now would be the time to complete the core and nursing concepts as soon as possible if you are in TX or any state that hasn't been affected by the new legislation yet. Had I forseen this problem arising with Georgia I would have moved a little faster with my studies. But as they say hindsight is 20/20.
Is a sad state of things because I know the Excelsior program is WONDERFUL-- and they put out great nurses. If only Excelsior could have clinicals set up in each state, that would solve many problems-- (I know I'm beating a dead horse). That would be a great thing if they did so, but I can imagine that being a difficult thing to get organized.
Where I work, I could easily have one of our RN's precept or whatever to give me 'clinical' hours-- but the BON's don't see it that way.
Guess I'll be putting my study guides up on eBay soon. . .
EricJRN, MSN, RN
1 Article; 6,683 Posts
Thanks, Dave. Wishing the best for those of you who are working through the program.
txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN
4,373 Posts
i wouldn't worry to much ...it's not the first time this has happened. this program has been in review several times and just keeps on ticking.
i just phoned the texas bon of they told me that excelsior is being evaluated due to their low number of clinical hours. i was advised that the decision on this could be within the year.dave
dave
akanini, MSN, RN
1,525 Posts
tspade, you always calm my nerves I tell you! I have to enroll as soon as I pass my boards and move fast then.
serenity67
70 Posts
not to be a downer, but i would definitely take it seriously. i say this only because it seems to be a national trend. when it happened in va i called the ncsbn and it was made clear to me that their official stand was against the type of distance learning that substituted a cpne in place of clinical hours. they further stated that, while they do not tell individual states what to do, they have distributed a "position paper" to all the state boards that clearly supports their reasons for their stance against programs like ec. i remember telling folks this when it was first happening in va and some folks perhaps felt i was overeacting just a bit... but then ga happened... so should you take tx seriously???? absolutely! while it may not be the first time it's come up in tx, it very well could be the final time (just my humble opinion).
ivanh3
472 Posts
two things, first, i agree with serenity67. take it very seriously. i live in georgia and ec has been here for 25 years and that doesn't seem to count for jack. i am not getting into the "is it good/bad" bit, just telling you what is.
second, i had to thank you in your above post because i noticed you had "666" thank you's and that was creeping me out, so i made it 667. just for luck. lol.
ivan
I noticed you had "666" thanks yous and that was creeping me out, so I made it 667. Just for luck. LOL.
LOL!! Seen on a t-shirt: "667: The Neighbor of the Beast."
Arnomedic
5 Posts
Good morning all,
I'm just getting started with Excelsior. I have a few general education requirements to fulfill and all the nursing courses. So living in Texas and just getting started, I'm naturally a little concerned.
Let's say, hypothetically, that the Texas B.O.N. comes out with a statement against E.C. What kind of action is likely to be taken by the B.O.N. in the immediate future? How long is the process likely to take?
I ask this because I'm getting ready to step up my studying and try to get this hammered out. Right now I'm figuring the process, if any at all, to block E.C. would take a while. In the mean time, I'm getting my R.N. completed.
Once again, this is all hypothetical, I have no reason to believe there is any issue in Texas with E.C. (other than this thread). I'd rather be pro-active and try to get this all done rather than just throw my hands up and give up before I really get started.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
It's difficult to say what the Texas BON would do. Georgia is different, in my opinion, because they have never allowed direct licensure by examination for EC grads. In the states where EC has been approved in the past (Maryland and Virginia fit this scenario) and then falls from favor, the state BONs have set deadlines by which EC students must complete the curriculum and be NCLEX-ready. Maryland's deadline was 12/31/2007, and Virginia's deadline is 12/31/2009. California gave approval for licensure by exam to EC students who enrolled before a date in December 2003 and kept enrollment continuous, and allowed them to finish in however much time it required.
It seems to me that Texas would do something like that, rather than cutting students off without warning, but who can say for sure?