Everyone is in NP school !

Specialties NP

Published

About half of the nurses in my Hospital are in NP school , about 75% of the RNs in the Atlanta area hospitals are in NP school. Where are the jobs to support the 17 millions new NPs in the graduation pipe line ? I have thought about NP school, I just can't see the job availability in the future. How is your neck of the woods ?

Well...since this thread has gone down the toilet, shibaowner really strikes me as the kind of person that doesn't allow their food to touch on their plate. Or NEVER color outside the lines. This, however, is strickly anectodtal, no evidence. haha

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.
Well...since this thread has gone down the toilet, shibaowner really strikes me as the kind of person that doesn't allow their food to touch on their plate. Or NEVER color outside the lines. This, however, is strickly anectodtal, no evidence. haha

Lol thanks we needed some humor up in here! I can contribute that although once again anecdotal, as many can imagine and my husband who's income I have evidence of, can verify I will eat food right off the floor provided the 5 second rule hasn't been breached and one of my big stinky dogs didn't get to it first. :D

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Well...since this thread has gone down the toilet, shibaowner really strikes me as the kind of person that doesn't allow their food to touch on their plate. Or NEVER color outside the lines. This, however, is strickly anectodtal, no evidence. haha

This forum does not allow personal insults. Please continue to not let the evidence get in the way of your beliefs, although I sure hope this is not how you approach NP practice.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Urology.

The NP bar is low when compared to our nursing and allied counterparts. Empirical evidence in my neck of the woods reveals a staggering amount of bedside nurses with

Up Vote Up Vote ×
I sure hope this is not how you approach NP practice.

No, mam, it isn't.

@Twozer0, I agree! but you said "with

(Insert argument for direct entry programs, probably by some in this thread)

Up Vote Up Vote ×
The Merritt Hawkins report is based on salaries paid in order to recruit psychiatrists. The BLS numbers are based on reports from employers of what they are actually paying. In addition, I am providing a link to the Veterans Affairs payscale, which is now quite good as they are working to match private sector pay.

Psychiatrists

Federal Register

::

Annual Pay Ranges for Physicians and Dentists of the Veterans Health Administration (VHA)

VA pay doesnt equate to work. You could have 3 psychiatrist on an inpatient unit hosting six patients and all three are getting 215k/each. So in economic view the VA doctor is getting more than the private sector provider who has: overhead, staff, malpractice, and other factors limiting compensation.

The bar is set fairly low for NP. I recall a fellow bsn student that failed out, matter fact two of them, and within a year of graduating (amazingly) they went to and were admitted....well they also failed out. The GRE should be required and more and more schools are requiring it, but you also have a bunch of farming schools that don't,

I've seen some of the most incompetent nurses stretch out for that increase in care level just to find out when/if they graduate they don't know jack sh!#...and if you don't know jack; he goes to the physician.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Lively discussion - just keep it within the terms of service to which all of you have agreed.

Thanks much

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Vascular Neurology and Neurocritical Care.

Weak students won't make it through my class. I'll fail you in a heart beat if you're not up to snuff. We can't afford to release ****** NPs out there to prescribe and diagnose. I'm annoyed like you are about everyone who thinks they can cut it but clearly aren't as evidenced by their unwillingness to put in the hard work needed to master the material or even fulfill rigorous admission standards.

Don't get me started on some of these shady "schools". You know which ones I'm talking about. I also won't precept such students or allow them in my facility to precept with any of the NPs working for me.

Up Vote Up Vote ×

This thread makes me laugh. So many experts.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.
This thread makes me laugh. So many experts.

Hmmm what a curious first post from a new member.

Up Vote Up Vote ×

Actually not a new member. Just new account. But what is so curious? Everyone is discussing the over saturation of NP's in the "field"... Most people are considering the field within a 50 mile radius. Of course there will be over saturation where you have 5 + large academic teaching hospitals in one city... For example I live in Birmingham, AL. We have at least 10+ universities within 30 miles of Birmingham. Same goes for ATL, ST TX, LA, DC. etc etc. everyone wants to work at those hospitals (UAB, Emory, St Joseph) not taking into consideration that these academic teaching hospitals have universities attached with multiple programs with all the students wanting to stay within that system. However, if I drive to a rural community there are more than an abundance of NP (or any mid level position for that fact) open. People love the "picturesque" of working in the large downtown hospitals.... of course they will be over saturated and of course the pay will be lower because, hey, guess what? If it doesn't workout for you they have thousands of other applications to choose from. I just think we, as nurses, no matter the levels of experience or training, should all support each other and help foster an environment where people are not afraid to continue their education or professional certifications. We all make mistakes. We all have learning to do (forever).... no reason to cast judgment on someone who has the desire to go further. And who are any of us to judge anyone? Just a "curious" thought.....

Up Vote Up Vote ×

My understanding is that so many NP schools are popping up because of a potential large shortage of doctors is anticipated in the future. In my area I don't see that a lot of nurses are in NP school but there are a lot of students in nursing school! But at the same time, nurses and NPs are retiring. In my area we have a great deal of primary/urgent care clinics popping up...but not enough staff to work them. It also seems like they don't have many patients in some areas. And now walmart's and cvs have clinics too...

Up Vote Up Vote ×
+ Add a Comment