Emory D-ABSN 2021

hannahmichelle4 · Nov 25, 2020

46 minutes ago, brightasalight said:

Has anyone been able to talk to a previous/current student in the program? I have a few more questions before I put down the deposit.

I have not but there are some other threads on this site with previous student’s input. I did attend the virtual open house a few months ago though and can try to answer any questions.

JLColton · Nov 25, 2020

Does anyone have any idea how much financial aid covers for this program? I plan to call tomorrow but that is a concern of mine

brightasalight · Nov 25, 2020

On 11/24/2020 at 8:07 PM, hannahmichelle4 said:

I have not but there are some other threads on this site with previous student’s input. I did attend the virtual open house a few months ago though and can try to answer any questions.

I listened to the virtual open house session on their website. My questions are:

1. Are we doing labs and clinicals during the 2 week trip to Atlanta?

2. Do we get a input on where clinicals are done in our hometown? Do they have to be done at the same hospital? When do we start clinicals in the hospital?

3. Besides the 1 week capstone at the end, what NCLEX support do we receive throughout the program?

4. And my last “question” is not really a question. I just want to know what a week looks like for a student in the program, from synchronous class time to studying and clinicals.

I waiting for -------------------- to link me up with a student, and hopefully it’s soon since orientation is next week.

On 11/24/2020 at 8:10 PM, JLColton said:

Does anyone have any idea how much financial aid covers for this program? I plan to call tomorrow but that is a concern of mine

I emailed ------------------- and she gave me a semester breakdown since I’m using GI Bill. She has been really responsive. ------------------------- has also been very helpful.

kayji, BSN · Nov 25, 2020

I'm in a current cohort and also used the GI bill if you have other questions related to that.

19 hours ago, JLColton said:

Does anyone have any idea how much financial aid covers for this program? I plan to call tomorrow but that is a concern of mine

I think it depends how much eligibility you have remaining for loans, but max for federal loans is $12,500 per academic year. So, if you start in the fall semester $12,500 is the max, otherwise $25,000. I don't know what scholarships are available.

18 hours ago, brightasalight said:

1. Are we doing labs and clinicals during the 2 week trip to Atlanta?

Yes, both of those and more. There is A LOT to do during the 2 week trip, it was busy but a good experience.

18 hours ago, brightasalight said:

2. Do we get a input on where clinicals are done in our hometown? Do they have to be done at the same hospital? When do we start clinicals in the hospital?

You don't get much input, unless you have some sort of hook up that would make their job easier. Supposedly we had a choice (maternity vs. mental health, peds vs. critical) but it was more like if they found anything (COVID made it more difficult) that was what we got. Rotations don't HAVE to be at the same hospital, but once the relationship is setup, the school will probably try to keep you there since building a new relationship is more work. You are supposed to start at the beginning of the second semester (after ATL trip).

18 hours ago, brightasalight said:

3. Besides the 1 week capstone at the end, what NCLEX support do we receive throughout the program?

The "capstone" isn't really NCLEX related - it's a clinical project. The entire program incorporates training for NCLEX style questions, strategies, etc. Exams are NCLEX style. Lots of ATI homework, quizzes, and exams (and except for the exams they are graded for time spent, not the score you get). At the end of the program there is a 3 day "live review" that is supposed to prepare you for NCLEX as well.

18 hours ago, brightasalight said:

4. And my last “question” is not really a question. I just want to know what a week looks like for a student in the program, from synchronous class time to studying and clinicals.

First semester we had synchronous class 3 days per week (6-8 hours per day), no clinicals. 2nd and 3rd semester was 2 days of class and clinicals 1-2 days per week depending on schedules. Studying (pre-recorded lectures, reading, case studies, outside resources, etc.) takes 8-12 hours the rest of the days.

brightasalight · Nov 27, 2020

On 11/25/2020 at 3:27 PM, kayji said:

I'm in a current cohort and also used the GI bill if you have other questions related to that.

I think it depends how much eligibility you have remaining for loans, but max for federal loans is $12,500 per academic year. So, if you start in the fall semester $12,500 is the max, otherwise $25,000. I don't know what scholarships are available.

Yes, both of those and more. There is A LOT to do during the 2 week trip, it was busy but a good experience.

You don't get much input, unless you have some sort of hook up that would make their job easier. Supposedly we had a choice (maternity vs. mental health, peds vs. critical) but it was more like if they found anything (COVID made it more difficult) that was what we got. Rotations don't HAVE to be at the same hospital, but once the relationship is setup, the school will probably try to keep you there since building a new relationship is more work. You are supposed to start at the beginning of the second semester (after ATL trip).

The "capstone" isn't really NCLEX related - it's a clinical project. The entire program incorporates training for NCLEX style questions, strategies, etc. Exams are NCLEX style. Lots of ATI homework, quizzes, and exams (and except for the exams they are graded for time spent, not the score you get). At the end of the program there is a 3 day "live review" that is supposed to prepare you for NCLEX as well.

First semester we had synchronous class 3 days per week (6-8 hours per day), no clinicals. 2nd and 3rd semester was 2 days of class and clinicals 1-2 days per week depending on schedules. Studying (pre-recorded lectures, reading, case studies, outside resources, etc.) takes 8-12 hours the rest of the days.

Kayji, thank you for this response! ---------------------------- did a semester by semester GI Bill breakdown for me. Did you apply for scholarships as well? Also, they told me that clinicals could be done in 2-3 week intervals if we have to travel outside the 75 mi radius. I know it's case-by-case, but I just want to make sure I understood them correctly. Last question...not that important, but what type of navy scrubs are we allowed to have? Are jogger pants OK?

kayji, BSN · Nov 28, 2020

On 11/26/2020 at 8:36 PM, brightasalight said:

Kayji, thank you for this response! ---------------------------- did a semester by semester GI Bill breakdown for me. Did you apply for scholarships as well? Also, they told me that clinicals could be done in 2-3 week intervals if we have to travel outside the 75 mi radius. I know it's case-by-case, but I just want to make sure I understood them correctly. Last question...not that important, but what type of navy scrubs are we allowed to have? Are jogger pants OK?

When I applied they "automatically considered" us for scholarships. I never heard anything about scholarships and I used the GI Bill, so I wasn't concerned about following up. I don't know for sure what others were offered, if anything, but I know there are people who took a lot of loans to cover the cost.

There were a couple people who had to go to ATL for clinicals if the school couldn't find anything for them locally. That is probably what they were talking about for completing in 2-3 weeks. Keep in mind that there isn't a 2-3 week break between classes to complete clinicals, so they were doing shifts 3 days per week while taking classes.

There is a website to get scrubs (at least the tops with the school logo) with a several different options (Cherokee Workwear Revolution, Healing Hands Works, Landau ProFlex, Urbane Ultimate). Since the pants aren't embroidered, you could get them anywhere if you get the same brand/color in a different style. They don't really care which style you wear.

queenrus · Nov 29, 2020

11 hours ago, kayji said:

When I applied they "automatically considered" us for scholarships. I never heard anything about scholarships and I used the GI Bill, so I wasn't concerned about following up. I don't know for sure what others were offered, if anything, but I know there are people who took a lot of loans to cover the cost.

There were a couple people who had to go to ATL for clinicals if the school couldn't find anything for them locally. That is probably what they were talking about for completing in 2-3 weeks. Keep in mind that there isn't a 2-3 week break between classes to complete clinicals, so they were doing shifts 3 days per week while taking classes.

There is a website to get scrubs (at least the tops with the school logo) with a several different options (Cherokee Workwear Revolution, Healing Hands Works, Landau ProFlex, Urbane Ultimate). Since the pants aren't embroidered, you could get them anywhere if you get the same brand/color in a different style. They don't really care which style you wear.

Hi Kay,

You have provided so much valuable information for us. I have a question. Do you know the circumstances of why the students had to complete clinicals in Atlanta. I ask this because I am wondering if initially Emory was able to find clinical sites for those students in their home base and then something happened and these students had to come to ATL.

I recently re-listened to one of webinars and heard the director state that if they are unable to find clinical sites locally then we will have to come to ATL.

Also, how many students are in your cohort?

The program I think is awesome in terms of being taught by a high caliber faculty and of course would not require a student to relocate. Are there any limitations of the program?

kayji, BSN · Nov 29, 2020

12 hours ago, queenrus said:

Do you know the circumstances of why the students had to complete clinicals in Atlanta.

I think we had 4 who had to go to ATL for some part of clinicals (it varied by units were needed) after the planned trip. My understanding of why is: 3 they didn't find sites locally 1 they found something but a preceptor was only available on nights. Some did virtual clinicals (Shadow Health) as well since they had trouble getting hospitals lined up early on due to COVID, but there is a cap on how many hours you can do that way (about 1 rotation apparently). Shadow Health is also used for the rotations where you have a "choice" - e.g. maternity vs. mental health - if you get a maternity clinical, you do mental health in Shadow Health and vice versa. This was new due to COVID, but they decided to keep doing it going forward.

There is a big change coming to how clinical sites are found. They previously had a company contracted to build the relationships, but they weren't very happy with the results, so now Emory faculty are responsible. That's brand new, so I don't know how much better it will be.

12 hours ago, queenrus said:

Also, how many students are in your cohort?

We have 13. We started with 18 and lost a few before the first exam and a few more at the end of the first semester. Some of them joined the cohort after us. I think it's a good size and helps with engagement on zoom classes.

12 hours ago, queenrus said:

Are there any limitations of the program?

Some people don't like the amount of time we spend on ATI, but I don't mind it and I think it's helpful to learn the material. It's pretty fast paced, which is the idea of course, but it gets stressful and overwhelming at points. I had to get used to the idea that I literally couldn't do all of the things I would like to do to learn the material (e.g. there isn't any where near enough time to read the book and take notes).

On the plus side, the faculty is pretty open to suggestions and willing to work with everyone to get through it. Most of the faculty is very organized, which helps, but the one exception can be painful. Class schedules are laid out with all of the lectures, reading, homework, etc. at the beginning of the class so you can plan ahead.

The clinicals actually end up being the biggest positive for me. Getting to work with a preceptor for most of your hours is huge for developing your skills and confidence, and a big selling point when applying for jobs.

queenrus · Dec 1, 2020

On 11/29/2020 at 10:19 AM, kayji said:

I think we had 4 who had to go to ATL for some part of clinicals (it varied by units were needed) after the planned trip. My understanding of why is: 3 they didn't find sites locally 1 they found something but a preceptor was only available on nights. Some did virtual clinicals (Shadow Health) as well since they had trouble getting hospitals lined up early on due to COVID, but there is a cap on how many hours you can do that way (about 1 rotation apparently). Shadow Health is also used for the rotations where you have a "choice" - e.g. maternity vs. mental health - if you get a maternity clinical, you do mental health in Shadow Health and vice versa. This was new due to COVID, but they decided to keep doing it going forward.

There is a big change coming to how clinical sites are found. They previously had a company contracted to build the relationships, but they weren't very happy with the results, so now Emory faculty are responsible. That's brand new, so I don't know how much better it will be.

We have 13. We started with 18 and lost a few before the first exam and a few more at the end of the first semester. Some of them joined the cohort after us. I think it's a good size and helps with engagement on zoom classes.

Some people don't like the amount of time we spend on ATI, but I don't mind it and I think it's helpful to learn the material. It's pretty fast paced, which is the idea of course, but it gets stressful and overwhelming at points. I had to get used to the idea that I literally couldn't do all of the things I would like to do to learn the material (e.g. there isn't any where near enough time to read the book and take notes).

On the plus side, the faculty is pretty open to suggestions and willing to work with everyone to get through it. Most of the faculty is very organized, which helps, but the one exception can be painful. Class schedules are laid out with all of the lectures, reading, homework, etc. at the beginning of the class so you can plan ahead.

The clinicals actually end up being the biggest positive for me. Getting to work with a preceptor for most of your hours is huge for developing your skills and confidence, and a big selling point when applying for jobs.

Thank you Kayji! Very helpful for us as prospective students. It's not the easiest thing to imagine how those 3 semesters will be.

jcnurse2b · Dec 4, 2020

Hi everyone!

I'm late to the game here as it seems that not many people know about this program! I'm sure this benefits all of us haha. I just recently applied but I'm just looking to start at Emory as soon as possible. I know that I applied for the Sumer 2021 cohort, but honestly, I'd even be willing to start next month in January. Do you all have any idea as to if they are very flexible with their seats, and if they are willing to fill the seats if need be? I'm banking on the fact that they want seats that they'll accept me on a whim.

Good luck to you all!

kayji, BSN · Dec 4, 2020

12 hours ago, jcnurse2b said:

I'm late to the game here as it seems that not many people know about this program! I'm sure this benefits all of us haha. I just recently applied but I'm just looking to start at Emory as soon as possible. I know that I applied for the Sumer 2021 cohort, but honestly, I'd even be willing to start next month in January. Do you all have any idea as to if they are very flexible with their seats, and if they are willing to fill the seats if need be? I'm banking on the fact that they want seats that they'll accept me on a whim.

I checked the class registration portal and for the Spring 2021 cohort there are only 3 open seats at the moment. They've said keeping the classes small is part of their plan. If you really want to be considered, I would suggest reaching out to the admissions office to ask if it's possible.

jcnurse2b · Dec 4, 2020

6 hours ago, kayji said:

I checked the class registration portal and for the Spring 2021 cohort there are only 3 open seats at the moment. They've said keeping the classes small is part of their plan. If you really want to be considered, I would suggest reaching out to the admissions office to ask if it's possible.

Hey thanks for your reply! It seems that they've gotten back to me and said

"Our Spring 2021 cohort is closed because their orientation and onboarding has actually already started. For decisions, we will do our best to get all of our Summer decisions out by that March date, but COVID has really affected our ability to place students and is causing a delay in decision releases."

Should I take no for an answer, or compromise and say, that since I am already an NA at a hospital that I can do some of my clinical there?

Thanks so much for your help! I really just want to get started as soon as possible!