Ebola here in Dallas USA

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Specializes in NICU.
If you were doing intake on this patient, would you really NOT make absolutely 100 percent certain anyone coming near this patient knew of the history? Would you not immediately doan PPE and escort the patient into isolation then immediately get a doc and TELL him what's going on? You're right, though, I should wait for more information. But writing something like this on an intake report and doing nothing with it is totally negligent.

Perhaps not. I guess he presented with a low grade fever and abd pain. I don't work ER, but I can imagine those sx for quite a few things that aren't Ebola.

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Specializes in IMCU, Oncology.

In the news today there are 19 people quarantined and 5 of them are elementary children who were exposed to this man! That is scary!

Oh and the stomach virus is going around in my area!

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Specializes in Oncology, Rehab, Public Health, Med Surg.
In the news today there are 19 people quarantined and 5 of them are elementary children who were exposed to this man! That is scary!

Oh and the stomach virus is going around in my area!

They're asking the children to stay home. Everyone that has been in touch with this individual is being monitored, mostly by taking temp twice daily.

Remember just being. "exposed to this man" doesnt mean these chldren were exposed to body fluids.

From CNN

The patient came into contact with up to 20 individuals, Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings told CNN.

A CDC team is in Dallas helping to find anyone he may have come in contact with, Frieden said.

Once those people are identified, they will be monitored for 21 days -- taking their temperatures twice a day -- in cooperation with local and state health officials, Frieden said.

Some school-age children have been in contact with the Ebola patient, but the students haven't exhibited symptoms of the deadly virus, authorities said.

Five students at four different schools came into contact with the man, Dallas Superintendent Mike Miles said.

The children are being monitored at home, and the schools they attended remain open, he said.

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Ebola/Marburg

The Ebola virus is transmitted by contact of infected body fluids. The reason it spreads so easily in other countries is the lack of PPE and cultural practices such as family members washing the bodies of the deceased before they are buried.

You cannot compare the spread of contact virus with the spread of airborne virus such as the Spanish flu, and that doesn't even consider the fact that of trying to compare modern healthcare versus early 19th century healthcare systems.

I think you placed the cart before the horse here. Not even the CDC are sure that it ain't airborne. That's why the isolation. So technically, u could compare the two.

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The population was also so much smaller and travel was nowhere near what it is today. Crowded buses and subways, hopping on a plane - things just aren't the same. Of course there is most certainly a lot more hand washing now.

I can't imagine how they can identify every person he came in contact with in the 2 days between his first visit to the ED (due to symptoms I assume) and when he was admitted. Did he perhaps cough into his hand and touch a doorknob in a public place? Could someone have opened that door right behind him, rubbed their eyes and then headed for the airport, reached their destination and will develop symptoms in a week two. How long will they think it's just a little virus as go about their business until they feel ill enough to seek treatment?

Or maybe I worry too much, I hope.

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Specializes in Gerontology RN-BC and FNP MSN student.

I pray protection over our health care workers, that none will suffer this contagion while caring for others.

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Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.

It reminds me of the first days of aids....frightening.

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
I think you placed the cart before the horse here. Not even the CDC are sure that it ain't airborne. That's why the isolation. So technically, u could compare the two.

That is incorrect. The CDC, WHO, and NIH all agree that you catch Ebola by direct contact not from airborne transmission. Transmission | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC The only conjecture about being airborne as a means of catching Ebola was some people's thoughts that it could drastically mutate into an airborne virus, and the basic consensus on that is that although it is theoretically possible there hasn't ever been known virus to make that drastic of a leap in mutation.

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
It reminds me of the first days of aids....frightening.

And most people were continually providing misinformation in those days too.

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
The population was also so much smaller and travel was nowhere near what it is today. Crowded buses and subways, hopping on a plane - things just aren't the same. Of course there is most certainly a lot more hand washing now.

I can't imagine how they can identify every person he came in contact with in the 2 days between his first visit to the ED (due to symptoms I assume) and when he was admitted. Did he perhaps cough into his hand and touch a doorknob in a public place? Could someone have opened that door right behind him, rubbed their eyes and then headed for the airport, reached their destination and will develop symptoms in a week two. How long will they think it's just a little virus as go about their business until they feel ill enough to seek treatment?

Or maybe I worry too much, I hope.

Ebola Outbreak: Frequently Asked Questions - Minnesota Dept. of Health If Ebola was spread as easily as people feared then all of Africa would have already be infected not just a few thousand, and it is important to note that all the Ebola patients taken care of in the United States have done well and at least one has already been released from the hospital. Ebola is scary, but it isn't an unknown virus with unknown vector. It should make everyone more cautious about proper use of PPE.

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Specializes in Anesthesia.

 IMMIGRANTS IN 1900's NEW YORK CITY - Living Conditions. These type of conditions were common place all over the world during the early 19th century and explains much of why viruses like the Spanish Flu were so easily spread in the majority of the population.

If you have never looked at the book "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair I would recommend it as a way of seeing how far we have come in terms of public health measures in the United States.

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Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
And most people were continually providing misinformation in those days too.
I agree....I remember CDC guidelines in the beginning that we wore hazmat like suits I took care for these patients but it was still unnerving.
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