Eating our young and more...

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I am attempting to put together some of the scary situations I have experienced in my nursing career. Not the patient scary things but the nurse on nurse issues. The drama, the back stabbing, the blame game. I have a list of them including a nurse manager fabricating a med error (determined unfounded by the state because I had excellent documentation) in order to be able to fire me the day after I refused to increase my patient load when I was running my butt off (1 doctor had just completely re-written all the orders on like 3 of my patients, while several nurses sat reading magazines at the nurses station.) I have been blacklisted from school nurse jobs after I brought documentation to the superintendent that having a teacher's aide suction and tube feed a student is basically practicing nursing without a license (I was informed about a week later that my contract would not be renewed) and most recently I reported an issue to the state (about injury to a patient when someone else didn't do their job) and when the state investigator came the incident had somehow been blamed on me (0nce again my documentation saved me when I had the email I had sent to my supervisor about the incident and she confirmed that the other person had dropped the ball).

So I guess what I am saying is has anyone else had issues? Back stabbing, scapegoating, or just down-right unprofessional treatment? I am to the point where I don't want to be a nurse because I am afraid I can't trust anyone to be honest and professional. What does everyone or anyone think?

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
This is really inflammatory language and proves her point.

To say that if someone is picked on they deserve it and have brought it on themselves is quite callous.

Would you say the same to a rape victim or domestic violence victim?

Rape victims and domestic violence victims have been subjected to real violence. There's a big difference between that and someone who hasn't figured out how to accept criticism and interact with grownup colleagues and real violence. Frankly, your post is so ignorant that it cheapens real violence and devalues rape survivors and survivors of domestic violence.

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Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
WoosahRN,

Oh, and by the way...I am not one of the "younger" staff. I am pushing 50 and I've been a RN for over 15 years. I am almost done with my masters degree. I really was not trying to focus this whole thread on NETY. It was just an example of bad behavior between nurses. What you report is just as bad! Anytime we do not support each other...young and old...we are doing our profession a great disservice. It just seems to me that it is getting worse and we have put ourselfs into an "every man for himself" situation and that is really sad.

If you're not trying to focus this thread on "NETY", they why label your thread "Eating Our Young and More . . . ."

As for supporting one another, this entire thread is undermining not only each other, but our profession.

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Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
NETY will never die.

Lazy cliches that allow people to avoid taking personal responsibility never do.

And using lazy cliches that allow people to avoid taking personal responsibility says quite a bit about the poster!

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Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Everyone is really getting stuck on this NETY thing. The title of the post also says "and more." I was looking for other examples of nurses treating nurses badly...not just NETY...I have been a nurse for 15 years and not claiming NETY...Again...I was not looking for anyone to fix or evaluate my previous problems...I was just giving them as examples of nurses being treated unfairly, often by administration and often by other nurses...I was just looking for some experiences that others have had and this has turned into a frenzy over the NETY topic being brought up...NETY is just one example of nurses treating nurses badly...the same can be said for the new nurse who comes in "knowing it all" and giving the experienced nurses attitude or complaining over not being spoon fed their orientation...My gosh...I was just giving some examples but this has turned into a freak out over what must be a very touchy subject for some...I was not trying to equate any of my issues to NETY...again...just giving some different examples of nursing being treated badly or serving as the "scapegoats." You can't tell me everyone out there has never been the scapegoat for a higher up issue or been on the receiving end of someone's vengeance or unprofessional behavior?

I know that most states are at will and can fire you for any reason...which makes it more of a slap in the face when someone fabricates a reason the messes with my license. All she had to say was we don't click, you can't fill our needs, or it's just not working out...instead we had to play a game with a med error that was determined to have not happened anyway. It was just stupid. And often there is administration who will throw it at the nurse to cover their own butt. I have a friend who literally had his license threatened by his supervisor. When attempting to discuss problems with care, she actually told him that he should "not worry about that and start worrying about his license." It is just such a shame that as nurses, many have gotten to the point that they must keep their heads down and not speak up, or constantly worry about covering their butt. Really I was just looking for some stories and this has turned into a bashing match. Everyone is so busy being offended that they are not getting the original reason for the posting. Maybe I should use the suggestion of BrandonLPN and do some research on the drama that ensues when you put a bunch of women together in the workplace. I don't know if he was serious or not, but I be the guys can affirm there is much less drama among the guys.

Oh sure. First bring up NETY, and now throw in a bit of misogyny.

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OMG...I AM JUST GIVING EXAMPLES OF PROBLEMS...NOT STATING THIS IS MY PROBLEM. I had a tough nurse to report to at my first nursing job...15+ years ago....and she made me a better nurse...was it stressful, yes...am I permanently damaged by this? No. I am not complaining of being a victim of NETY. I am just trying to come up with a topic of unfair treatment...there have got to be thousands of examples. Jeesh...I will never say NETY again...it must bringing up some old wounds for some. Were all you offended nurses accused of it? Otherwise I can't figure what all the hub-bub is about??? Thank you to the few who have offered up stories...I have already found many more stories on other threads. I guess people want to tell their story unless that are asked to tell their story. Kinda funny! But enough with the NETY already! Many of you who are even complaining about my thread have posted responses in other threads about "covering you butt."If there's no blame gaming going on, why does everyone feel they need to cover their butt? That's half of my thought process...that it is a shame that we feel we need to practice nursing on the defensive. Anyone else feel this way?

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Many of you who are even complaining about my thread have posted responses in other threads about "covering you butt."If there's no blame gaming going on, why does everyone feel they need to cover their butt? That's half of my thought process...that it is a shame that we feel we need to practice nursing on the defensive. Anyone else feel this way?

It can be annoying to be defensive. However, covering one's butt and being defensive has nothing to do with what veteran nurses think. It's about how an attorney will use your own words (or lack of words) against you when the poo hits the fan. It's about how the state will view you and your charting when they are conducting an investigation.

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WoosahRN, She wasn't teaching me, she was taking report from me...bug difference.

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Specializes in PICU.

I did read the original post and I've responded. I don't see how it furthers anything in nursing to constantly rehash a cliche that doesn't even apply to you. And again, nothing about this thread or topic does anything to build up or better nursing. It's picking at scabs and wondering why things don't get better. You aren't part of the solution at this point. You're part of the problem. So that's what I'm asking. How is any of this making things better other than just serving to have people gossip.

I've tried to ask questions and the back pedaling makes this all the more confusing. You titled your post with NETY and now you're trying to focus on "other", but you can't understand why people responding are focusing on NETY which gets brought up on a daily topic here.

One bad experience giving report 15 years ago is pretty good.

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yeah...not a NETY problem...My title is NETY and more...looking for more examples of unfair treatment...thousands of examples...just looking for a new idea, but no one is giving ideas, they are focusing on all the wrong parts and not giving what I originally asked for...stories about bad experiences...oh and some people find venting their bad experiences therapeutic...There are tons of bad stories on all different threads all over the place here. Really if people didn't or don't want to share a story, which what I was asking for...then they should just move on...not the big deal everyone is making... Now, really tired of argueing over all this stuff that was not the meaning of the post. Oh and back-peddling? not sure what that's about??? My initial post said "So I guess what I am saying is has anyone else had issues? Back stabbing, scapegoating, or just down-right unprofessional treatment?"...this is all I was looking for. I gave some examples and asked for some examples.

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Here is what sticks in my mind, If I didn't have the documentation... For every situation you have had extensive documentation? Do you go home and document your day? Do you look around for things that don't seem right to you and document them? The reoccurring theme here is that you seem to have a problem for every place you work. I have worked with many people like this and it never turns out well for them, anywhere they work. They are the martyr and everyone is out to get them. Focus on yourself, your job, your life, and stop worrying about everyone else. I bet once you claim responsibility for yourself, a lot of these problems will magically disappear.

Also coming into a forum and asking for one-sided stories is not accurate research. I can't believe someone who is going for their masters would even think that this is ok. Even I at my lowly level of schooling that I have now, knows this is not how you do research.

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I think that there are those in every work force that should not be tolerated. These individuals are historically difficult to deal with and it takes a strong devoted leader to deal with them ....this takes time and energy. I have recently found that managers don't have the time nor the inclination to deal with these individuals.

I have to say the wort hazing I ever received was form a male nurse 20 years ago or more....once publicly confronted he ceased his antics. Most of the time these people are very insecure and have low self esteem....I pity them.

The passive aggressive people? I consider the source and frankly they aren't worth my time.

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if I could "like" this post ten times, I would!!!!

This is really inflammatory language and proves her point.

To say that if someone is picked on they deserve it and have brought it on themselves is quite callous.

Would you say the same to a rape victim or domestic violence victim?

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