Dying with Dignity? Can't Everyone Die with Dignity?

Recent news has focused on the news that a terminally ill patient ended her own life rather than let an aggressive brain tumor end it for her. Many praise this as a death with dignity but as nurses, let's make sure everyone dies with dignity by providing end of life care. Hospice and palliative care offer death with dignity every day for patients. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

There is huge support for the recent case in the news about Brittany Maynard who recently took her own life rather than letting cancer take it from her in its own time. While many people believe that what Brittany did was a good and decent thing, a question remains: If the only way to die with dignity is to take your own life, what does it mean if you don't?

As a hospice nurse, I believe all of my patients die with dignity. They die with dignity because they are human persons, with the dignity and worth all human persons deserve. I certainly can speak for the fact that they suffer, that they decline, that they need help and support of others, but that does not exclude the fact that they have dignity. Nor does it diminish their honor that they choose to let nature take its course rather than letting a pharmaceutical cocktail end it for them.

It is my hope that no one believes that there is nothing to live for if you have a terminal disease. I hope all my patients know that. Life isn't always about being a perfect person, without sickness or debility. Steven Hawkings is an excellent example of this, although severely debilitated, and having a terminal illness, he continues to contribute greatly to knowledge, to science, and to many people who care deeply for him as a person.

Being sick or being terminal doesn't have to mean you have no quality of life. Not knowing what Brittany Maynard was told about her condition, I can only hope that she was given the choice to continue life with hospice or palliative care. Such care can give patients quality of life they did not know they could achieve with a terminal or severe illness.

Further, although a person may feel they don't want to live with sickness or debility, what they really may be feeling is that there is no hope, which is never true for anyone. They also may not understand or be informed that the things they fear may not happen at all. Often, health professionals opt to be totally honest with patients and let them know "worst case scenario" and while honesty is generally the best policy, sometimes too much information does a disservice to a vulnerable person. All of us know what happens when we look up diseases or illness on the internet: we learn things we never wanted to know or we learn things that aren't even close to accurate. Someone who has just learned they are terminally ill is someone who needs information but they also need support and at the end of life, one of the best supports is knowing that there is help no matter how dismal things seem.

With hospice or palliative care, many patients realize that their symptoms can be controlled and managed and they can go on living and enjoying each day. It is beyond doubt that most people given a terminal diagnosis fear not only death, but being a burden on others. With supportive care from hospice many of these concerns are ameliorated but a patient doesn't know that if no one tells them.

So before we start to think that the only way to die with dignity is to end a life, let's make sure we offer our patients every option for end of life care we can. Hospice and palliative care can make so much difference and give hope to those who may feel that they have no choices left. Let's make sure that every patient dies with the dignity of end of life care, given by health workers who believe that no one death is less dignified than others.

Specializes in L&D, OBED, NICU, Lactation.
Oh yes, there are. They're called insurance companies.

Clearly we disagree on the definition of death panel.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

Everyone has a "right" to "die with dignity"; the most important part of that right is self-determination.

Agreed....sort of. I think we should all get to co-opt it. It may not mean to you what it means to me, but we should both get to use it to mean what we need it to mean for us.

Well, it depends ......the death with dignity label is clearly associated with the assisted suicide movement.

And that's what the OP was talking about.

It makes many hospice nurses wince when we see that - truly, what I do I consider a privilege. The fact that someone asks me into their home during a very private time is monumentally humbling. I started hospice after working ER and L&D for the first 9 years of my life as a nurse. It happened on a fluke that I won't go into but I'll be forever grateful.

What we do IS help people die with dignity. I guess all I'm asking is stand in my shoes for a minute. And see how using that phrase can hurt when only tied to assisted suicide.

Again, not arguing the merits or detriments of assisted suicide.

Specializes in Community, OB, Nursery.
Well, it depends ......the death with dignity label is clearly associated with the assisted suicide movement.

And that's what the OP was talking about.

It makes many hospice nurses wince when we see that - truly, what I do I consider a privilege. The fact that someone asks me into their home during a very private time is monumentally humbling. I started hospice after working ER and L&D for the first 9 years of my life as a nurse. It happened on a fluke that I won't go into but I'll be forever grateful.

What we do IS help people die with dignity. I guess all I'm asking is stand in my shoes for a minute. And see how using that phrase can hurt when only tied to assisted suicide.

Again, not arguing the merits or detriments of assisted suicide.

I'm not attempting to define this phrase for anyone except me.

When I hear 'death with dignity' I may not hear the same thing as you do....and thus don't need to bring my assumptions about what that means for you when you say it. All I'm asking is the same in return.

For the record I have had nothing but positive experiences with hospice....in several states and facilities....but if someone else's idea of death with dignity does not for whatever reason jibe with hospice values that needs to be fine too. Dignity is a pretty personal thing and it may or may not have anything to do with what a hospice can offer. Either way it is ok.

I'm not attempting to define this phrase for anyone except me.

I think the original idea was to question the portrayal of the assisted suicide movement's use of "Death with Dignity" and when stories are written it makes it sound as if this is the only way to die a dignified death.

It wasn't directed at an individual person.

Again, not arguing about assisted suicide.

Sometimes I wonder why any of us (me included) can't just accept someone's statement by looking at it from their point of view. Like, hey, I can see how as a hospice nurse whose goal for patients is a peaceful & painfree death that it would bother you to see the term "death with dignity" used in a way that makes it look like what you do is not worthy of much.

"Yeah, I can see how that might bug you". ......And then, leave it at that.

I guess we love to debate here on allnurses . . . .I include myself.

I'm going to watch for this in myself in the future.

Hospice Nurses are the Angels of Nursing Practice. Read Atul Gawande's newest book called BEING MORTAL: MEDICINE AND WHAT MATTERS IN THE END. It is an astonishing read. Everyone in Medicine and Nursing should read it.....

I am a hospice nurse.

I do not believe that there is an inherent contradiction between these two options of assisted suicide/death with dignity and hospice/death with dignity. It is a choice that each person should be allowed to make for them self.

I could see a situation where I would choose hospice and then my condition might change in a way that I would want an end to come at the time and way of my choosing.

I do not think that "controlling symptoms" is what is best for each person if they have such physical or mental anguish and they have a terminal condition.

Yes, some posts here will question about when, during the terminal condition we call life, it is okay to choose to shuffle off this mortal coil. I don't have an iron clad answer for this. Life is imperfect.

Many of the people who have died at the hospice did not achieve all of the goals and closure that they may have wanted; I suspect that many of us won't have everything wrapped up before we die.

My father was on hospice many years ago. He had researched options such as the Hemlock society; they weren't perfect but it was the information and the options that he wanted to have at hand in case he felt that his suffering was more than he could bear.

Back in those days the solution he came up with was to hoard his oral morphine. It was a while ago and I don't remember the concentration, but I'm sure that it would have taken a lot and who knows if he could have successfully downed that much...

He died peacefully; and I'm glad we didn't have to have the conversation where he might have asked me to help him to die. But in some states and countries the option is there, as well as a process, that the person and the professionals involved follow. It's not for everyone.

Death is often imperfect as well.

Specializes in School Nursing.
Self-determination is everything. If a patient wants to end his or her life, who is the medical provider to say no?

Should the provider be FORCED to participate in actively ending a person's life? I think a patient should have the right to die without medical intervention if that is their wish. I think the patient should have the right to end it legally, even. But providers shouldn't be forced to participate, either. As a hospice nurse, I don't think I could participate in actively ending a patient's life. I'd be by their side, and I would do what I could to make the patient comfortable, but I would not administer the 'lethal' dose.

The hospice nurses who cared for my grandmother several decades ago waited until my flight got in from another state, then gave her an overdose of morphine after I had a chance to say goodbye.

:nailbiting: If this is truly what happened, (I'm not calling you a liar, but just because your grandma got a dose of morphine after you arrived and died shortly after does NOT mean the nurse purposely overdosed her) I am generally appalled. Hospice does NOT endorse or support overdosing patients. It's anecdotes like this that keep people sending their grandmas to die in ICU under bright lights and invasive equipment rather than comfortably at home with loved ones and hospice care. Very sad, indeed.

Specializes in School Nursing.
Hospice Nurses are the Angels of Nursing Practice. Read Atul Gawande's newest book called BEING MORTAL: MEDICINE AND WHAT MATTERS IN THE END. It is an astonishing read. Everyone in Medicine and Nursing should read it.....

I'm currently reading this.. excellent read so far.

I don't know of anyone stating that that hospice personnel would or should be required to provide the intervention that would lead to a person's death.

I do think that it would be possible to have a conversation during hospice care about what choices a dying person would like to make.

That conversation may not be appropriate for each person. There are a lot of conversations that should occur but don't...

Should the provider be FORCED to participate in actively ending a person's life? I think a patient should have the right to die without medical intervention if that is their wish. I think the patient should have the right to end it legally, even. But providers shouldn't be forced to participate, either. As a hospice nurse, I don't think I could participate in actively ending a patient's life. I'd be by their side, and I would do what I could to make the patient comfortable, but I would not administer the 'lethal' dose.

:nailbiting: If this is truly what happened, (I'm not calling you a liar, but just because your grandma got a dose of morphine after you arrived and died shortly after does NOT mean the nurse purposely overdosed her) I am generally appalled. Hospice does NOT endorse or support overdosing patients. It's anecdotes like this that keep people sending their grandmas to die in ICU under bright lights and invasive equipment rather than comfortably at home with loved ones and hospice care. Very sad, indeed.

I agree that this is NOT what hospice does and it they did, this plays right into all the fears I hear about Hospice from lay folks.

My own brother won't even consider hospice for our mom because "You hospice nurses just go in the kill them with morphine". We unfortunately encounter this a lot.

But that is NOT what I do. Ever.

"Morphine kills the pain, not the patient".

Check out Dr. Ira Byock on this issue.

Should the provider be FORCED to participate in actively ending a person's life? I think a patient should have the right to die without medical intervention if that is their wish. I think the patient should have the right to end it legally, even. But providers shouldn't be forced to participate, either. As a hospice nurse, I don't think I could participate in actively ending a patient's life. I'd be by their side, and I would do what I could to make the patient comfortable, but I would not administer the 'lethal' dose.

Actually (in Oregon at least) the patient must administer the medication to him or herself - the physician is not allowed to administer the medication because that would be euthanasia, not assisted suicide. After receiving two oral requests at least 15 days apart from each other followed by a written request signed by the patient and two witnesses, AND the patient receives a second opinion confirming the original diagnosis and agreeing that the pt has less than 6 months to live, THEN the physician can prescribe the lethal dose (usually of Seconal or Nembutal). The physician must also explain the process and layout the alternatives (such as hospice care). It is then completely up to the patient when, where, and IF they take the dose. There is also usually a medical professional present to take the pt's pulse every few minutes to determine time of death. (SOURCE)

I personally think the two most important things a healthcare provider can do in ANY case (not just PAS cases) are 1) inform the patient of all their options and 2) advocate for their patient's choice(s) without letting their personal opinions interfere. While there are physicians who disagree with PAS, I think it's important they respect the choice of their patient and value their patient's autonomy. The physician is not administering the lethal dose, they simply write the prescription, and then the patient does whatever they're going to do. Many of these patients end up not taking the medication, but I'm sure it's still nice for them to know that they had that option available to them, and I'm sure it is even more crucial to know that the option is available without judgment (for lack of a better word) from their healthcare provider(s). That's just my personal opinion on the issue.

*Disclaimer: I am not a nurse, nor do I hold any type of medical certificate or license. I am simply a pre-nursing student with an opinion.