Yesterday, I was in the break room with coverage of the hurricane clean-up on when a colleague of mine came in and began to discuss it. She proceeds to talk primarily about how Harry Connick Jr looked so good without his shirt on and that he could, "rescue her ANYTIME." She went on and on about it to me.
Now, if the tables had been turned and I had been commenting like she did about a female, that would be sexual harassment. This is by far not the first time this has happened. When I worked in the ER, women would go on about the firefighters and what they wanted to do to them (in graphic detail).
Has anyone else noticed this, or do I just have bad luck with coworkers?
This doesn't offend me (except that I think it's highly unprofessional for grown people - men or women - to act like this...) but I think that their should be a standard. I would never act like that, but if I did, it'd be sexual harassment and I'd be disciplined/sued.
We only have three men at my small hospital that work on my floor during my shift and they are all respiratory therapist. They never have much to say. They laugh and joke around but are never out of line.
They have mentioned that a new nurse has been complaining about three years of being manless and being sick of running low on batteries and I was speechless. Now she is talking about it to everyone and I told her she was giving out way more information than I wanted to hear.
They have mentioned that a new nurse has been complaining about three years of being manless and being sick of running low on batteries and I was speechless. Now she is talking about it to everyone and I told her she was giving out way more information than I wanted to hear.
Well, I'm glad to hear that they are complaining. I worked with a few guys once (residents, not nurses) who I'm sure would have offered their services. IMO, TOTALLY unprofessional on both parts.
Well, I'm glad to hear that they are complaining. I worked with a few guys once (residents, not nurses) who I'm sure would have offered their services. IMO, TOTALLY unprofessional on both parts.
This girl got divorced and really let herself go so I don't think anyone will take her up on her offer. Her hair is a mess, she weights about 320lbs, and when she sees this one poor guy she acts all gitty, giggly, and talks to him like she is panting. It is actually very annoying and she will ask us all night does anyone need respiratory I think I will just call %T^. The guys have quit sitting at the desk during down time on the nights she works. I think they are hiding.
This girl got divorced and really let herself go so I don't think anyone will take her up on her offer. Her hair is a mess, she weights about 320lbs, and when she sees this one poor guy she acts all gitty, giggly, and talks to him like she is panting. It is actually very annoying and she will ask us all night does anyone need respiratory I think I will just call %T^. The guys have quit sitting at the desk during down time on the nights she works. I think they are hiding.
Wow. That's got to be annoying. I would hate to have someone "pseudo-stalking" me like that!
At my floor we all had to take a special harrssment class by lawyers because of a complaint. I personally never heard anything bad but whatever. The class emntioned that we arent even supposed to ask any of the male folks on the floor to pick up the sparklets bottles (big ones)and put them into into the water coolers. Now C'mon common sense would tell you a 6 foot man coud lift heavy stuff better than a 5 foot woman but whatever, asking them to help with that is sexual harrasment now :angryfire Talk about taking things a little too PC
maybe it's just me, but as a guy, if the women I work with are being graphic with their sex lives, I just find a quiet corner of the nurses station so I can listen without them remembering that I'm there.
LOLOLOL.
It might be a double standard, but I think, as far as double standards go, in general, guys have it better.
Yesterday, I was in the break room with coverage of the hurricane clean-up on when a colleague of mine came in and began to discuss it. She proceeds to talk primarily about how Harry Connick Jr looked so good without his shirt on and that he could, "rescue her ANYTIME." She went on and on about it to me.
Now, if the tables had been turned and I had been commenting like she did about a female, that would be sexual harassment. This is by far not the first time this has happened. When I worked in the ER, women would go on about the firefighters and what they wanted to do to them (in graphic detail).
Has anyone else noticed this, or do I just have bad luck with coworkers?
This doesn't offend me (except that I think it's highly unprofessional for grown people - men or women - to act like this...) but I think that their should be a standard. I would never act like that, but if I did, it'd be sexual harassment and I'd be disciplined/sued.
Sexual Harrassment must meet three criteria
1. it must be sexual in nature (includes a very broad definition of sexual...the above would be included)
2. the perpetrator must be told that it is not wanted
3 the behavior must be repeated
So if you dont speak up (to the perpetrator or to management) it isnt harrassment
I believe too many women don't recognize their part in sexual harassment when it occurs. I am sensitive to this because a male friend of mine was dismissed from an agency position because he complained about sexual harassment by the females in his workplace. Nobody thought he had a right to be uncomfortable, except me...I could put myself in his shoes and sense his great discomfort.
I've posted about this before, but it involved him being the only male in a group of female breastfeeding nurses, who used the common break area to openly breastfeed their infants, change nursing pads, pump, etc. When he voiced his discomfort at this, HE was made the lascivious bad guy...and the girls complained to management, who fired him. When I said something to one of the girls about this (I knew the crew he was working with) they were outraged at him, and got mad at ME when I supported him.
So IMO women DO need to check that they aren't operating under a double standard.
A nurse made uncomfortable by BREASTFEEDING!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I understand completely about the point you are making about women not recognizing thier part in this issue......but I dont think the incident you are using is any kind of reasonable example
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Remember this general rule in any sexual harassment situation:
The first thing you must to do stop what you perceive is sexual harassment is to tell the harasser to STOP.
If you have not done this, you have not accomplished much. Just unemotionally and professionally ask this person to stop this behavior, if it bothers you or you feel it is unprofessional. Then, if it does not stop or gets worse, you take it from there, having the fact you did ASK THE PERSON TO STOP behind you.
At my floor we all had to take a special harrssment class by lawyers because of a complaint. I personally never heard anything bad but whatever. The class emntioned that we arent even supposed to ask any of the male folks on the floor to pick up the sparklets bottles (big ones)and put them into into the water coolers. Now C'mon common sense would tell you a 6 foot man coud lift heavy stuff better than a 5 foot woman but whatever, asking them to help with that is sexual harrasment now :angryfire Talk about taking things a little too PC
At my floor we all had to take a special harrssment class by lawyers because of a complaint. I personally never heard anything bad but whatever. The class emntioned that we arent even supposed to ask any of the male folks on the floor to pick up the sparklets bottles (big ones)and put them into into the water coolers. Now C'mon common sense would tell you a 6 foot man coud lift heavy stuff better than a 5 foot woman but whatever, asking them to help with that is sexual harrasment now :angryfire Talk about taking things a little too PC
It's sort of interesting to think about the water cooler example above. Now, flip the scenario around. What would be said if the male in that situation used the same reasoning to consistently exclude the smaller females from lifting the water bottle? Would there be a rush to judgement about his perception of the females on his floor?
I have run into sexual discrimination as a male, but I just realize it is part of some peoples personalities. I was told by one female nurse I couldn't do history and focused exam on any young female. I do this every day, and as a trained professional, it is not even sexual in nature for me to see parts of a female that are normally covered when working in the ER. It's not like i've never seen something before?! It is a little demeaning for another nurse to discuss whether or not you should care for a certain patient because of your gender.
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We only have three men at my small hospital that work on my floor during my shift and they are all respiratory therapist. They never have much to say. They laugh and joke around but are never out of line.
They have mentioned that a new nurse has been complaining about three years of being manless and being sick of running low on batteries and I was speechless. Now she is talking about it to everyone and I told her she was giving out way more information than I wanted to hear.