Published Jan 13, 2014
babsy28
45 Posts
I must still have winter vacation brain because I cant seem to work out this simple question. Please help.
Question
Order: Toradol 15mg IV over 1minute
Available: Toradol 30mg/ml in 2ml
How many ml's will the nurse administer?
I came up with 0.5ml but the answer is 1ml.
I thought the 2ml was a distractor because it states the dose is 30mg/ml and it was just stating that you had a total of 2ml on hand.
Sorry I know this is a simple question but I'm confused.
203bravo, MSN, APRN
1,211 Posts
There must be a piece missing somewhere --- the information as presented does represent that you have on hand a 2mL vial at 30 mg/mL .. thus a total dose of 60 mg. So it would be 0.5 mL to give a 15 mg dose.
Was the dose diluted so that on hand was a total of 2 mL? If so then it would make sense that you would give 1 mL because of the dilution.
That's what we were thinking Bravo. The problem I typed is exactly what it says on the paper.This was just a practice sheet before we take our dosage exam tonight. There's no explanation just the answer given. I'll have to ask if there is a typo. It was driving me nuts because I could do the advanced calculations but the easy one tripped me up.
Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN
20,908 Posts
I must still have winter vacation brain because I cant seem to work out this simple question. Please help.QuestionOrder: Toradol 15mg IV over 1minuteAvailable: Toradol 30mg/ml in 2mlHow many ml's will the nurse administer?I came up with 0.5ml but the answer is 1ml.I thought the 2ml was a distractor because it states the dose is 30mg/ml and it was just stating that you had a total of 2ml on hand.Sorry I know this is a simple question but I'm confused.
Look at the question carefully.......I think it is poorly written. The
It should say Available: Toradol 30mg/ml diluted in 1ml 0.9ns to total 2ml.
Available:Toradol 30mg/ml diluted in 1ml 0.9ns to total 2ml.
I would ask you instructors to clarify.
momtojosh
518 Posts
i got 1ml by cross multiplying.
15mg/x = 30mg/2ml
15mgx2ml=30
30mg/30 = 1ml
november17, ASN, RN
1 Article; 980 Posts
"IN" is the key word. It is a poorly written question, though. It could have been diluted with god knows what.
Personally I'd put the calculator down, toss the "dose" in the question into the sharps container, and go get an undiluted vial. Then I'd go write it up..that's a safety issue!
I knew what it mean as well..... but when it says you have 30mg/1ml in 2 ml it makes me thing you put the 30mg/ml in 2 ml/s of diluent ...leaving a huge margin for errors.
I was joking, since the question had already been answered. At last year's skills checkoff we had a new non-clinically experienced educator that had written a bunch of math questions like that. Yes, they make us prove we can still do the math once a year where I work even though we do them 50 million times a day. After doing the math I spent the rest of the allotted test time pointing out all the patient safety issues I saw. I'm such a nerd.
I now you were...LOVED your version of a question on the other thread....LOL I'm nerd too. :)
I feel bad for the student when they try to figure these out....sigh
I now you were...LOVED your version of a question on the other thread....LOL I'm nerd too. :)I feel bad for the student when they try to figure these out....sigh
I remember on one of the insulin dosage calculation questions; she had photocopied one of the vials while preparing the test months before and the vial pictured on the test was like 3 months expired. I did the math but I couldn't resist pointing it out
pookyp, LPN
1,074 Posts
I did desired/have X the vehicle. I thought it was written just fine. Now that I read the other responses I can see how it can be misunderstood.
nurseprnRN, BSN, RN
1 Article; 5,116 Posts
People get confused on these all the time. The fact of the matter is that if any label says "30mg/ml," then one ml has 30mg in it, no matter how many cc there are in the vial. I can't tell you how often students forget that and think for some reason they need to account for every cc in the vial, when it's only necessary to know mg/cc to do your calculation.