Published Apr 12, 2014
ArtClassRN, ADN, RN
630 Posts
Hey everybody,
I precept a lot of nurses during their med surg clinicals and for capstone/preceptorships.
The other day, a student doing a clinical day was talking with her professor and other nurses about prospective jobs after graduation. She was talking about how much she hates the med surg environment (except apparently when it progresses her towards a nursing license) and listing off some very attractive 9-5 clinic jobs she is going to pursue.
It was pointed out that most of the jobs she noted require experience and she said, "Yeah, but I have worked in a group home for 15 years. I do all the things the nurses do and know way more than them anyway, so that is better than having two years of med surg experience."
While group homes do provide valuable experience, there is no substitute for licensed nursing experience.
I sort of wrote her off and was very thankful she was not my student. Given her attitude, I would refuse to allow her anywhere near my patients. A student who thinks she knows everything (hell anyone who thinks they know everything) is a very dangerous caregiver.
Have fun and good luck!
RunBabyRN
3,677 Posts
Wow, scary! I don't look forward to encountering those students!! I'm about to graduate, and thankfully, my class is, from what I've seen, awesome. I am one of the ones with the most prior experience, but I have no disillusions about how my experience will or will not propel me into the market as a new grad nurse, nor do I think I know more than the nurses! I had a different scope in my position as a hospital corpsman, and there are some areas in which I likely have more experience and different experience, but to have SUCH arrogance only displays how little this student knows and will learn in the long run. Hopefully she will either develop some humility on her own or it will hit her in the face hard before she hurts someone.
Hbrmom81
27 Posts
Thats scary! I have worked as a medical assistant for 7 years and the same doctor for 5 and while I know and have seen a lot! I never tell anyone when I go to clinicals!
#1 I don't want them to assume because I work in healthcare I may know something and not explain as much to me or teach me.
#2 I don't want to be the one that other students constantly look to for a medication answer while yes it has taken me 7 years to get to my medication knowledge level you need to work on your own not bug me daily!
#3 I want to gain every bit of knowledge and experience that I can get while I am there
Because you NEVER know where that RN license may take you some day!
H
akulahawkRN, ADN, RN, EMT-P
3,523 Posts
I'm not all that good at prognostication (Carnac the Magnificent I'm not...) but I can easily foresee a very difficult time for that person in the job hunt...
SunshineDaisy, ASN, RN
1,295 Posts
Man, I wish I knew everything. My life would be so much easier! I think I learned nothing in school :/
I think I'd go insane if I knew everything.
AmyRN303, BSN, RN
732 Posts
I don't think one needs to be clairvoyant to realize that that student will run into a brick wall sooner than later with that attitude :) We'll call you Akula the Magnificent.
Ruby Vee, BSN
17 Articles; 14,036 Posts
All I have to say is that people who think they know everything a really annoying to those of us who do know everything.
sissiesmama, ASN, RN
1,897 Posts
Hey everybody,I precept a lot of nurses during their med surg clinicals and for capstone/preceptorships. The other day, a student doing a clinical day was talking with her professor and other nurses about prospective jobs after graduation. She was talking about how much she hates the med surg environment (except apparently when it progresses her towards a nursing license) and listing off some very attractive 9-5 clinic jobs she is going to pursue.It was pointed out that most of the jobs she noted require experience and she said, "Yeah, but I have worked in a group home for 15 years. I do all the things the nurses do and know way more than them anyway, so that is better than having two years of med surg experience."While group homes do provide valuable experience, there is no substitute for licensed nursing experience. I sort of wrote her off and was very thankful she was not my student. Given her attitude, I would refuse to allow her anywhere near my patients. A student who thinks she knows everything (hell anyone who thinks they know everything) is a very dangerous caregiver.Have fun and good luck!
Wow! That would drive me nuts! I know u were glad she wasn't with u that day!
Anne, RNC
tokmom, BSN, RN
4,568 Posts
OMG, I would have wanted her with me, bwhahahaha!
I love those that think a 4.0 in nursing school makes them smarter than everyone else too. I once had a new grad that was in tears on her first real day as an RN with no preceptor. She couldn't figure out why she was struggling, because she had a 4.0 in school
Yeah, real nursing ain't nothing like school, honey...
Avill, BSN, RN
2 Articles; 384 Posts
WOW...
That is indeed dangerous, and why wouldn't she want a med/surge job? I hear that's about the best place to start, you get experience! I've seen that same attitude with some of my classmates and it makes me think what kind of nurses they will be. Apparently that student hasn't come to terms with the amount of knowledge seasoned nurses have.
I can only hope to have that much knowledge in my head some day!
I also have to say that it's interesting seeing that although some people may be book smart, they are not "people smart". It's like they have no idea the boundaries of their words ect.
Anyway, yeah. 2 more quarters to go for me! yay.
ceccia
269 Posts
WOW... That is indeed dangerous, and why wouldn't she want a med/surge job? I hear that's about the best place to start, you get experience!
That is indeed dangerous, and why wouldn't she want a med/surge job? I hear that's about the best place to start, you get experience!
depends on where you ultimately want to work. Not everyone needs hospital experience beyond school/clinicals per se, especially now that nursing in the US is trending more toward community care and budgets are shrinking for acute care/hospital-based. personally i would have lasted about an hour working in med-surg, or any hospital job really; i just don't have the temperament for it and my hat is off to anyone who can stand the insanely hectic pace of acute care.
i'm much better suited to community and clinic-based nursing; since graduating i've worked in a rehab hospital and a walk-in clinic and now i work in sub-acute rehab; i've not had any trouble getting those jobs without acute care/hospital experience.