Does the shot mess with your DNA?

[Floor_Nurse]

The way that this Covid vaccine works is quite different from the flu shot. The Covid vax. is not a (dead) bacteria or virus being injected into your body. (With Pfizer & Moderna) RNA (called messenger RNA) that's been coded in a lab goes into your arm. The RNA has instructions, or a code, that gets deposited on the cell. The ribosomes of the cell make a spike protein. It looks similar to the spike protein on the surface of the actual Corona virus. Then your body is supposed to make antibodies (antigens) that goes after the spike protein and neutralize it. 

The problem is that this has not been tested in any long-term studies, so, this is more of an experiment. We don't know whether or not the DNA gets permanently changed (possibly bad). We're talking about something that's not supposed to be in your body (made in a lab) that can bind to the surface of your cells and possibly may not be able to be reversed. 

Also, since the drug is still being evaluated for long term adverse effects, pregnancy, etc., the FDA would not license the drug, but instead, put out as EUA... Emergency Use Authorization.

[toomuchbaloney]

5 hours ago, Floor_Nurse said:

Isn't it odd that the federal government has granted legal immunity from liability to Pfizer & Moderna if something goes wrong with this particular vaccine?

And now, there are numerous incidents from doctors who state that some of their patients have reported alarming side effects, like the doctor (in the link below) in New York (who advocates a low-carbohydrate diabetes diet). He says that the Covid shot caused low blood sugars in himself and his patients...

https://youtu.be/NhRYP_P5SOE

No, it's not odd. What might be odd is your concern and reliance upon Youtube to inform yourself. 

[HRoark64, BSN]

8 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No, it's not odd. What might be odd is your concern and reliance upon Youtube to inform yourself. 

As opposed to mainstream media outlets that advertise for pharmaceutical corporations, research funded by pharmaceutical corporations, and government bureaucrats that leave their taxpayer funded jobs to go work for pharm and healthcare lobbying shops? Straight shooters, no doubt.  

[GrumpyRN, NP]

2 hours ago, HRoark64 said:

As opposed to mainstream media outlets that advertise for pharmaceutical corporations, research funded by pharmaceutical corporations, and government bureaucrats that leave their taxpayer funded jobs to go work for pharm and healthcare lobbying shops? Straight shooters, no doubt.  

Oh dear, Trump has gone you know. You no longer have to say the mantra "fake news" after everything now. In fact you are actively encouraged to carry out your own research and look at ALL articles not just the ones that encourage your confirmation bias.

I repeat, "Europe has very rigorous methods for reporting vaccine side effects and this is not mentioned." And, "What is the point of this conspiracy? Who benefits?"

 

[HRoark64, BSN]

42 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

Oh dear, Trump has gone you know. You no longer have to say the mantra "fake news" after everything now. In fact you are actively encouraged to carry out your own research and look at ALL articles not just the ones that encourage your confirmation bias.

I repeat, "Europe has very rigorous methods for reporting vaccine side effects and this is not mentioned." And, "What is the point of this conspiracy? Who benefits?"

 

Has nothing to do with Trump. Broadcast stations, especially news types, have been shills for corporate interests for several decades. 

[Gellybean07]

On 3/19/2021 at 10:28 AM, Hlopez90 said:

It’s not really a personal choice when you’re a healthcare worker in my opinion. It’s not just about you, it’s about the community you work with. I’ve had both doses and absolutely no symptoms except a light fever and some fatigue that same day (normal, it’s an immune response- body is doing its job). Every medicine you take has the possibility to cause reaction, it’s just how probability works.  I guess I can say that I’m grateful in hindsight that I had a virology researcher as my Microbiology teacher, no matter how difficult she made the class, she broke everything down; it’s so relevant today and helped me personally tell shady info from real info. The reason it took so little time is because governments and companies cut the red tape that usually causes so much time in between  vaccine research, development, and release. Literally 1000s of researchers and scientists teamed up around the world and used shared platforms to share information and work together; I don’t think some of you realize how historic this is. Also, 1000s of human participants courageously volunteered as testing subjects. I’m not judging anyone but a simple Google search (obviously looking at legit articles) will produce this information for anyone. 

It’s not really a personal choice? Says who? You? You have no right to imply that people have no rights what goes into their bodies.  It IS their personal choice. Were you in the Lab when they created the vaccine? I’m sure you weren’t, so stop telling people they have no choice.  Just because you did not have any permanent long term effects from the vaccine like, paralyses, blood clots, and even death does not mean it cannot happen.  Let’s talk about facts, shall we.  It has not been proven to be 100% safe and effective, so therefore, as a medical professional yourself, you should know that there are chances that this vaccine can cause more harm then good, and YES some people like myself are not willing to find out if We are that small percentage.  Let’s talk about facts again.  My family members got both Pfizer vaccines, and several weeks later they winded up in the hospital with covid and are on a respirator as we speak.  Is it 100% effective? I think not.  And let me be clear, my family members did not get covid from the vaccine, they got covid because their masks were relaxed due to be “fully vaccinated”.  So whoever wants to keep thinking what they want about this vaccine, let them.  I don’t care because I DO have a personal choice!

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

24 minutes ago, HRoark64 said:

Has nothing to do with Trump. Broadcast stations, especially news types, have been shills for corporate interests for several decades. 

So what you are saying is that we should ignore journalism and stick our heads in the sand where Youtube videos run at the bottom of the hole?  Did you ever hear of confirming your sources?  In modern times we have to use our computer literacy skills, in which you are still lacking.  I'm thinking you are very young and just haven't had a research course or developed any spidey sense.

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

2 minutes ago, Gesp17 said:

It’s not really a personal choice? Says who? You? You have no right to imply that people have no rights what goes into their bodies.  It IS their personal choice. Were you in the Lab when they created the vaccine? I’m sure you weren’t, so stop telling people they have no choice.  Just because you did not have any permanent long term effects from the vaccine like, paralyses, blood clots, and even death does not mean it cannot happen.  Let’s talk about facts, shall we.  It has not been proven to be 100% safe and effective, so therefore, as a medical professional yourself, you should know that there are chances that this vaccine can cause more harm then good, and YES some people like myself are not willing to find out if We are that small percentage.  Let’s talk about facts again.  My family members got both Pfizer vaccines, and several weeks later they winded up in the hospital with covid and are on a respirator as we speak.  Is it 100% effective? I think not.  And let me be clear, my family members did not get covid from the vaccine, they got covid because their masks were relaxed due to be “fully vaccinated”.  So whoever wants to keep thinking what they want about this vaccine, let them.  I don’t care because I DO have a personal choice!

Whoever said it was 100% effective?  Show me ANYTHING that's 100% effective.  95% is pretty close.   What are the chances that harm can come from something used millions of times over the world and we still don't know about it?

[Gellybean07]

3 minutes ago, subee said:

Whoever said it was 100% effective?  Show me ANYTHING that's 100% effective.  95% is pretty close.   What are the chances that harm can come from something used millions of times over the world and we still don't know about it?

Just goes to show what you just replied how ignorant you really are.  You only focused on the 100% effective part, but had nothing to say about what else I said.  ????? because you know that’s all you got.  So sad that the medical community are so brainwashed in believing in science and not believing in other methods of staying healthy. Push and push and push pharmaceutical on people.  That’s not the answer!  And by the way, why would someone choose to get something that’s not 100% effective, because people are so desperate for an answer that they turn to corrupted pharmaceuticals to help with their fear in this pandemic.  If you really are educated in the medical field you would know that vaccines take YEARS, NOT MONTHS to be able to be safe for people to take.  So go open your books back up and read up on that part.  You might have missed that.

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

1 minute ago, Gesp17 said:

Just goes to show what you just replied how ignorant you really are.  You only focused on the 100% effective part, but had nothing to say about what else I said.  ????? because you know that’s all you got.  So sad that the medical community are so brainwashed in believing in science and not believing in other methods of staying healthy. Push and push and push pharmaceutical on people.  That’s not the answer!  And by the way, why would someone choose to get something that’s not 100% effective, because people are so desperate for an answer that they turn to corrupted pharmaceuticals to help with their fear in this pandemic.  If you really are educated in the medical field you would know that vaccines take YEARS, NOT MONTHS to be able to be safe for people to take.  So go open your books back up and read up on that part.  You might have missed that.

I couldn't respond to the rest because it was all based on baloney and "feelings."  But I do know that nothing in medicine is 100% effective (is there anything you use in your life that is 100% effective?  If so, you didn't answer the question the first time.  As a corollary, nothing is 0% free of problems.  But you are so ANGRY.  We have never had such a vaccine development before with scientists around the world working on the same solution.  There is nothing to compare it to.  One of the reasons that it will be taken off the EUA soon is due to the amount of research that was done before it was even released.  I used to teach anger management classes so I know anger when I see it and it's interfering with your life.....fer sure if this is how you behave online.

[Gellybean07]

4 minutes ago, subee said:

I couldn't respond to the rest because it was all based on baloney and "feelings."  But I do know that nothing in medicine is 100% effective (is there anything you use in your life that is 100% effective?  If so, you didn't answer the question the first time.  As a corollary, nothing is 0% free of problems.  But you are so ANGRY.  We have never had such a vaccine development before with scientists around the world working on the same solution.  There is nothing to compare it to.  One of the reasons that it will be taken off the EUA soon is due to the amount of research that was done before it was even released.  I used to teach anger management classes so I know anger when I see it and it's interfering with your life.....fer sure if this is how you behave online.

Stop being so angry. It’s not healthy for you.  I actually stopped reading your response after you said my feelings were baloney.  My family members being sick in the hospital right now with covid is baloney to you? You shouldn’t be part of the medical community if you still are. You are pathetic! And no I’m not angry, I’m saddened by your ignorance.  Don’t assume! You know what you make yourself look like when you assume. Please get some anger management classes to help with your frustrations why people don’t believe anything you say. It’s people like you that ruin our society!

[Lluk S]

Everything in the environment will "mess" with your DNA including radiation that naturally occurs. Northern states have high amounts of radon, and southern states have radium in drinking water. We live in a very polluted toxic world which affects DNA and is in everything you eat, drink, and breathe in. NO escaping that.  Regardless what conspiracy theorists say, the vaccine is not even a fraction of how the actual disease will affect you.  

People worry so much about garbage. We may have a nuclear war in the near future. Even without wars, life is dangerous. 

I took the COVID vaccine. no big deal. 

[Hannahbanana, BSN, MSN]

18 hours ago, subee said:

Isn't it odd that the federal government has granted legal immunity from liability to Pfizer & Moderna if something goes wrong with this particular vaccine?

It’s not the least bit odd. There has been federal legislation on the books since 1988 shielding all vaccine manufacturers from liability claims arising from allegations of harm post vaccines. It includes a mechanism for review of each case and other remedies. Look it up,and set your mind at ease about conspiracies. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22  and included links. 
 

ETA: I know it wasn’t subee who made this allegation originally, that’s just where it caught my eye.