Does the shot mess with your DNA?

[Floor_Nurse]

The way that this Covid vaccine works is quite different from the flu shot. The Covid vax. is not a (dead) bacteria or virus being injected into your body. (With Pfizer & Moderna) RNA (called messenger RNA) that's been coded in a lab goes into your arm. The RNA has instructions, or a code, that gets deposited on the cell. The ribosomes of the cell make a spike protein. It looks similar to the spike protein on the surface of the actual Corona virus. Then your body is supposed to make antibodies (antigens) that goes after the spike protein and neutralize it. 

The problem is that this has not been tested in any long-term studies, so, this is more of an experiment. We don't know whether or not the DNA gets permanently changed (possibly bad). We're talking about something that's not supposed to be in your body (made in a lab) that can bind to the surface of your cells and possibly may not be able to be reversed. 

Also, since the drug is still being evaluated for long term adverse effects, pregnancy, etc., the FDA would not license the drug, but instead, put out as EUA... Emergency Use Authorization.

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

12 hours ago, mdcp said:

@MeganMN

Here....

http://www.c19ivermectin.com/

 

 

 

LateBhattacharya et al., Int. J. Scientific Research, doi:10.36106/ijsr/7232245 (Peer Reviewed)Observational Study on Clinical Features, Treatment and Outcome of COVID 19 in a tertiary care Centre in India- a retrospective case series

Retrospective 148 hospitalized patients showing triple therapy with ivermectin + atorvastatin + N-acetylcysteine resulted in a 1.35% case fatality rate .....quack, quack.

 

That's a ridiculous website attached to nothing except itself.  It would take a lifetime to separate a legitimate study from a crude study.  Like the one above.  The author's name I recognized immediately because he is a notorious outlier who has been disowned by his own university.  And you know why it would take a lifetime?  Because there are NO legitimate RCT's in existence.  How can you even think ivermectin the drug among the 3 that made a difference?

Even the company who manufactures it doesn't recommend it for Covid.  They actually have money to lose from this statement so I'm more likely to believe them than Dr. Bhattacharya who is a radical liberitarian attached to an organization that promote business, not medicine.  He has become rich with speaking engagement on Fox, along with Dr. Oz and others who can never be rich enough.

 

 

[tennis_girl]

Dr. Fauci and top health officials testify on efforts to combat Covid-19 last week - 5/11/2021.  Listening to this update last week, I found it interesting that 40% employees at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases as well as the Food and Drug Administration have NOT been vaccinated.  Anthony Fauci of NIAID and Peter Marks of FDA testified that only about 60% of employees at each organization have chosen to be vaccinated.  Rochelle Walensky from CDC doesn't give a number or percentage, saying while they encourage employees to be vaccinated, it is not federally required.

Is anyone else intrigued by this?  I would expect some to not be vaccinated for medical reasons, but not this many.  These folks certainly know more about these vaccines than any of us.  What do they know that we all do not know, but should probably know?  I would love to hear from this group.  

Skip to about 20:20:22 in the video where Senator Burr asks the question for how many employees at the NIAID, FDA, and CDC have been vaccinated. 

 

 

[macawake, MSN]

37 minutes ago, tennis_girl said:

Dr. Fauci and top health officials testify on efforts to combat Covid-19 last week - 5/11/2021.  Listening to this update last week, I found it interesting that 40% employees at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases as well as the Food and Drug Administration have NOT been vaccinated.  Anthony Fauci of NIAID and Peter Marks of FDA testified that only about 60% of employees at each organization have chosen to be vaccinated.  Rochelle Walensky from CDC doesn't give a number or percentage, saying while they encourage employees to be vaccinated, it is not federally required.

Is anyone else intrigued by this?  I would expect some to not be vaccinated for medical reasons, but not this many.  These folks certainly know more about these vaccines than any of us.  What do they know that we all do not know, but should probably know? 

 

To answer your last question first. I doubt there is anything they know that you should know, but don’t. I interpret that question as you implying that they’re in possession of some nefarious vaccine knowledge that they’re hiding from you, the general public. Why do I feel certain they’re not? Well first of all, I’m not prone to conspiracy thoughts. Secondly, the U.S. is not the only country whose regulatory agencies have vetted the vaccine research. Thirdly, if there were some ”secret” damaging information it wouldn’t be 60% that had been vaccinated. It would be 0%. Or do you think the 60% aren’t in ”the loop”?

I agree with you though that it is a low number that have chosen to be vaccinated considering you’d think many of the employees would be research literate. But I’m not surprised. From a European standpoint you guys are quite unique. In the U.S. it often seems that the political party a person votes for decides how they feel about Covid vaccines. So I guess that 60% of the employees are Democrats and the rest Republicans ? Are they done vaccinating or is it still ongoing at NIAID and the FDA?

I hope that you as a nation will manage to reach higher vaccine coverage than 60% for your population. Otherwise there’s a risk that you’ll be a terrific breeding ground for new variants. 

 

[nursej22, MSN, RN]

32 minutes ago, tennis_girl said:

Dr. Fauci and top health officials testify on efforts to combat Covid-19 last week - 5/11/2021.  Listening to this update last week, I found it interesting that 40% employees at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases as well as the Food and Drug Administration have NOT been vaccinated.  Anthony Fauci of NIAID and Peter Marks of FDA testified that only about 60% of employees at each organization have chosen to be vaccinated.  Rochelle Walensky from CDC doesn't give a number or percentage, saying while they encourage employees to be vaccinated, it is not federally required.

Is anyone else intrigued by this?  I would expect some to not be vaccinated for medical reasons, but not this many.  These folks certainly know more about these vaccines than any of us.  What do they know that we all do not know, but should probably know?  I would love to hear from this group.  

Skip to about 20:20:22 in the video where Senator Burr asks the question for how many employees at the NIAID, FDA, and CDC have been vaccinated. 

 

 

I'm sorry, I cannot locate the part of the video you describe. However, a 60% vaccination rate is about twice the national average (according to the New York Times last Thursday). And that number includes many retirees, whom I presume do not work at FDA, CDC, or NIAID. So they are well ahead of the national average. 

If employees are not in clinical areas, I presume they have had to wait for their shot, like everyone else. 

[tennis_girl]

1 hour ago, nursej22 said:

I'm sorry, I cannot locate the part of the video you describe. However, a 60% vaccination rate is about twice the national average (according to the New York Times last Thursday). And that number includes many retirees, whom I presume do not work at FDA, CDC, or NIAID. So they are well ahead of the national average. 

If employees are not in clinical areas, I presume they have had to wait for their shot, like everyone else. 

I had a typo.  Skip to 2:20:22 in the video.

Perhaps you are right about the clinical areas and having to wait.  The discussion in the testimony doesn't go into this detail.   

2 hours ago, tennis_girl said:

Dr. Fauci and top health officials testify on efforts to combat Covid-19 last week - 5/11/2021.  Listening to this update last week, I found it interesting that 40% employees at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases as well as the Food and Drug Administration have NOT been vaccinated.  Anthony Fauci of NIAID and Peter Marks of FDA testified that only about 60% of employees at each organization have chosen to be vaccinated.  Rochelle Walensky from CDC doesn't give a number or percentage, saying while they encourage employees to be vaccinated, it is not federally required.

Is anyone else intrigued by this?  I would expect some to not be vaccinated for medical reasons, but not this many.  These folks certainly know more about these vaccines than any of us.  What do they know that we all do not know, but should probably know?  I would love to hear from this group.  

Skip to about 20:20:22 in the video where Senator Burr asks the question for how many employees at the NIAID, FDA, and CDC have been vaccinated. 

 

 

I had a typo.  Skip to 2:20:22 in the video.

[nursej22, MSN, RN]

28 minutes ago, tennis_girl said:

I had a typo.  Skip to 2:20:22 in the video.

Perhaps you are right about the clinical areas and having to wait.  The discussion in the testimony doesn't go into this detail.   

I had a typo.  Skip to 2:20:22 in the video.

I did not hear any of the people saying that employees were declining immunization, and I certainly didn't hear that they didn't trust the vaccine. 

I think this was a "gotcha" question from Senator Burr, who probably knew full well how many of those employees were vaccinated. Again, people in clinical areas are mandated to get vaccines or at least show immunity. 

And then goes on to rail about how school children are required to get vaccinated. Mandatory vaccination is determined at the state and local level, and only FDA/ACIP recommended vaccines are mandated. 

 And then he throws in colleges requiring COVID vaccine to really muddy things up. At least he wasn't as *****y as Senator Rand. 

 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

On 3/20/2021 at 1:01 AM, CABGpatch_RN said:

so it is a pissing contest to you too.  Disgusting.  PP has nothing to do with anything in this discussion.  There are people like you who will bring it in though to serve your own agenda and as a nurse, it disgusts me.

How do we know of Jack Pearce is a nurse? I don't think so.  This is why we need some section of AN to be for RN's only so that we can just eliminate a lot of nonsense we have to go through on here.

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

On 3/21/2021 at 2:54 AM, Jack Peace said:

Bingo, you are correct. 

When you look at this through the retroscope aren't you embarrassed to be soooooooo wrong?

[Floor_Nurse]

Isn't it odd that the federal government has granted legal immunity from liability to Pfizer & Moderna if something goes wrong with this particular vaccine?

And now, there are numerous incidents from doctors who state that some of their patients have reported alarming side effects, like the doctor (in the link below) in New York (who advocates a low-carbohydrate diabetes diet). He says that the Covid shot caused low blood sugars in himself and his patients...

https://youtu.be/NhRYP_P5SOE

[nursej22, MSN, RN]

17 minutes ago, Floor_Nurse said:

Isn't it odd that the federal government has granted legal immunity from liability to Pfizer & Moderna if something goes wrong with this particular vaccine?

And now, there are numerous incidents from doctors who state that some of their patients have reported alarming side effects, like the doctor (in the link below) in New York (who advocates a low-carbohydrate diabetes diet). He says that the Covid shot caused low blood sugars in himself and his patients...

https://youtu.be/NhRYP_P5SOE

He also says don't avoid the vaccine, just be on your toes. 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

20 minutes ago, Floor_Nurse said:

Isn't it odd that the federal government has granted legal immunity from liability to Pfizer & Moderna if something goes wrong with this particular vaccine?

And now, there are numerous incidents from doctors who state that some of their patients have reported alarming side effects, like the doctor (in the link below) in New York (who advocates a low-carbohydrate diabetes diet). He says that the Covid shot caused low blood sugars in himself and his patients...

https://youtu.be/NhRYP_P5SOE

So what's the end point of the conspiracy between the government and the vaccine producers?  How exactly does that work?  As for Dr. Bernstein's Ketogenic diet,  If I were limited to 6 to 12 grams of carbs per meal, I might be very sensitive to any extra stressors my body might be reacting to.  Everything I can see online re: blood sugars after the vaccine indicate that they rise.  Dr. Bernstein seems to be an outlier on this and maybe it has to do with his patients having an extremely low carb diet.  And maybe that's a good diet.....until something comes along to change your normal metabolic equilibrium  

[GrumpyRN, NP]

35 minutes ago, Floor_Nurse said:

Isn't it odd that the federal government has granted legal immunity from liability to Pfizer & Moderna if something goes wrong with this particular vaccine?

And now, there are numerous incidents from doctors who state that some of their patients have reported alarming side effects, like the doctor (in the link below) in New York (who advocates a low-carbohydrate diabetes diet). He says that the Covid shot caused low blood sugars in himself and his patients...

https://youtu.be/NhRYP_P5SOE

But strangely this happens nowhere else in the world. Europe has very rigorous methods for reporting vaccine side effects and this is not mentioned.

More scaremongering. 

 

Edited to add;

What is the point of this conspiracy? Who benefits? Like all conspiracy theories it falls down when you look at WHY?