Does anyone else see discrimination? Long Post but please read!

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I just need to vent and hopefully some of you great nurses out there can help me!

I am currently a nursing student in my junior year enrolled in a BSN program. And over the past summer I worked as a student nurse/PCA at a very prominent hospital in the area. One day as I was coming on to start my shift when the clinical nurse specialist told me that she and the nurse manager wanted to speak with me, which I was fine with...a little confused but whatever. I never would of thought I was in trouble because I never had any issues with the staff or patients, or so I thought. In fact I always got high praises, letter and flowers from patients coming back to visit.

Since the nurse manager wasn't on the floor when at the beginning of my shift, I started my daily routine of taking vitals etc. When she returned I was brought into the office and was told that a complaint was filed against me in the beginning of the week. Anyway, apparently the complaint was that when I was doing my 3:00p.m. vitals on a patient, I never recorded them in the chart, and that I never completed them in its entirety. The person that complained (to my understanding) was the wife of a patient who was a nurse on a different floor of the same hospital. Of course, I denied the allegation to the fullest because it was completely untrue. And she had no proof, it was her word against mine. I even requested the chart and lo and behold the vitals were charted and initaled by ME. I was actually told by the day nurse who started his vitals to just finish them up, but with me not knowing what she completed I did them over myself. While I was in the meeting I never got to explain anything that happened, I was talked over, and told I was lying. I tried explaining to them the wife wasn't in the room when I was taking them so how could she have known? The wife probably didn't see me do everything including write them down, considering she was always in and out the room. So at the end of it all I was told that I was being suspended with pay until she could "investigate" the situation. I simply obliged and went home (very sad and angry) and prayed that she would see the truth.

Now a little background. I am the only African American person on the entire floor. And I always felt that was an issue for a few of the nurses, but me being me I still treated them the same utmost respect. I tried talking to them during free time, and made cookies for the 4th of July, and went out of my way to help all of them even if I wasn't assigned to that particular nurse all in an attempt to warm them up to me. To my surprise I walked in on a few situations where I was being talked about with them saying the only reason I got this job was because of affirmative action, and one time I was referred to a "N....." (yes, the "N-word", something I NEVER say). It hurt of course, but I took it like a grain of salt and held my head high still respecting them and doing my job the best of my abilities. The nurse manager never got to know me on a "personal level" as I contributed it to her always being busy. But I realized that she was always more welcoming to the other student nurse/PCA who started with me who was coincidential causcasian often inviting her to lunch, and plain showing favoritism. Again, I never said anything, I just did my job not wanting to make a fuss or come off as a pansy. To me the nurse manager was very influential to the staff nurses in a negative way. She only engaged in the staff she liked etc. I honestly think the "investigation" consisted of her just asking around about me to a bunch of women who didn't like me to begin with. I am not one to pull the race card considering the time we live in, but I just can't shake the fact that discrimination is exactly what I experienced.

Fast forwarding to the day after the meeting less than 24 hours from the inital meeting. When I was at home, I received a phone call from the nurse manager saying that I was terminated for "not making progress within 90 days of hire." However, what was more odd about it all was that she called me in her office about 3:30p.m. the previous day and she leaves at 4-5:00p.m. If there was an "investigation" made since her decision came less than 24 hours, when did she have time to look into it considering she wasn't even in the hospital? Being in shock all I could do was cry because I was so upset and hurt by everything. I asked her what the "investigation" consisted of she never answered the question directly which was suspicious to me. But again, I swallowed my pride, took the outcome and thanked her for giving me the opportunity to work with them. According to another nurse manager on another floor, if I was being fired for that reason the CNS or NM was required to give me at least one warning. Something I never received.

I called my mother at work in tears and told her what happened. And she started to cry with me, because the money I was trying to earn that summer was to help pay for school. As a result of this all I had to work full time Fall, 2006 to earn that money back. She told me to call HR and check on the policies. Of courses, all the policies that were recited back to me protected the decision of the NM. I filed my incident with a state agency, and when I got the hospital's response to everyting amung a bunch of legal documents etc. I saw that I am no longer eligible for rehire for that healthcare system here. Meaning when I do get my RN that eliminates 3+ hospitals that I can work at all because of this. It is literally little ol' me a nursing student against this HUGE organization that happens to be one of the biggest employers in the state.

I have never felt this way before in my entire life. I truly hope that no one has to ever experience this. Please give me insight on your opinions regarding this. I can use it right about now!

Specializes in ER/Nuero/PHN/LTC/Skilled/Alzheimer's.

AS has been said before, write everything down, including exact dates, names, situations, etc. Talk to a legal aide person or an outside lawyer. Then talk to your school. If they do clinicals there or will have you observing there as part of your program, they need to know this. Then contact the state agency to see what head way is being made on your claim. Also contact the student nurses association in your state. You may not be the only one who this has been done to. And finally, if you have no other choice, contact your local NAACP or Civil rights group. These programs and groups are there to protect people from discrimination. Good luck to you!

This is so freakin' pathetic! It hasn't happened to me, yet I'm furious. I'm an African-American and as my mother says "should've been a hippy because of my desire to 'make love, not war'" But that's what I love about myself no matter how many of my own tell my otherwise, or how many others look at me differently. I applied and have been accepted to a University that I have been warned against from my uncle who is a doctor and went there for a spell, and from other students that I've met that have all told me "watch yourself- they are notoriously prejudiced and you will be monitored more than anyone". But, as usual I chose to go against the grain. We'll see how it turns out... Though so many people think that it has gotten oh so much better- it has improved some, but it hasn't come as far along as it should've by this day and time. I remember my mom wanting better for me and struggling just so we (my siblings) could live in a better environment. So in 2nd grade she moved us to some place COMPLETELY different from where I was used to. At the time, there were hardly any African-Americans in the city and the local high school's mascot was a Rebel touting the Confederate flag! It was mentioned on the news some time after I graduated years later, but to this day, the Confederate flag is still proudly exhibited on every area of the school's grounds. Growing up there, I was called the "N" word several times, I was threatened, I was chased by car while I was walking, and I was spit on (I think that was the only incident that truly really hurt my heart more than a little as I had to pull streams of disgustingly mucousy spit out of my thick hair). I still managed somehow to love all of humanity. I guess God just made me this way. But DON'T you let them get away with this. I would feel hypocritic and like a liar if I told you to just keep being yourself and what goes around comes around. I, too, am so tired of hearing about certain people only being where they are today because of Affirmative Action! Measure my grades with anyone else's, or my leadership qualities with anyone else's, or my ambition and passion with anyone else's, then talk to me about my "priveleged life".

Get a lawyer. I'm sure the ACLU would love to hear about this - their website is www.aclu.org or call their national office in NYC at 212-549-2500 to get a number for your local office. As far as the hospital not turning over documents, that's what a subpoena is for.

Please don't wait any longer.

Specializes in Diabetes ED, (CDE), CCU, Pulmonary/HIV.

I hope you'll be able to get some form of justice through the courts. I'm curious to know if your being a student made it easier for them to fire you--and who had the son or daughter in school waiting for your job. Some people tell me I see conspiracy in everything.

I grew up in the deep south(car tags said "Heart of Dixie") so I've witnessed a lot of racism. When I moved north (Chicago) after college, I saw as much racism in Chicago as at home--it was just a little subtler. Boston has had a reputation in the past, but I don't know much about recent times. We have come a long way, but we're not there yet.

I live in Miami where multiple cultures work together and sometimes clash. The hospital I worked at my first 9 years had much racial tension. The worst part for me was that people would hear my southern accent and immediately assume I was racist. (sometimes whites telling racist jokes and expecting me to laugh--sometimes being accused of being a racist by a Jamaican or Haitian nurse or CNA who didn't like the assignment I gave them). I carry a fair amount of "southern guilt" because of the mistreatment I saw whites direct toward African Americans during my childhood and adolescence.

Good luck in your fight. Keep us posted on your progress.

Specializes in Nurses who are mentally sicked.

Call the NAACP!

Call the 20/20!

Call the New York Times!

Make sure the whole world is going to know it!

I hope you'll be able to get some form of justice through the courts. I'm curious to know if your being a student made it easier for them to fire you--and who had the son or daughter in school waiting for your job. Some people tell me I see conspiracy in everything.

I was terminated from a job once, many, many years ago at a company where I entered large orders for shipment. One day my boss just up and said I was making too many mistakes. When I asked to see my errors she said, 'I have already reviewed the orders, and I'm not pulling them out of a file again.'

A week later I was fired...and found out later that her sister took my place.

I guess if they didn't have a position available, they were going to create one.

Does anyone know who is typically above a nurse manager, like who is her boss?

Specializes in ICU-Stepdown.

for us, the don is the one above the nurse manager, I think.

In response to the question about how to refer to this when seeking a new job, I would not bring up the subject in an interview. If directly asked, then simply tell your side of the story. Think about what you would say if questioned about this ahead of time. Try to think of something positive to say about yourself in your answer. Good luck.

Specializes in Med/Surg.

Probably is racism. I think it is about fitting in with the team, which often has racial divides. I have seen floors with mostly black nurses constantly complaing about nurses of other races and vice-versa. Either way, it is still racism. One cannot change their race in order to become a better fit with the other nusing staff. Isn't it a shame that race is even an issue in nursing? All we can do is resolve NOT to tolerate it ourselves, and change employers if necessary.

Yes, it's discriminatory.

I'm so sorry that you were working with such ignorant assclowns.

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