Do you think patients should have the right to use medical marijuana?

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Specializes in Critical Care.
oh my! Potheads over drunks, and patients high on whatever they took in their medicine cabinet. Violent patient high on cocaine...... give me the pothead

not at work (co-workers that is, not pts), thank you very much.

At least with the alcoholics, I can prove by a etoh level that they are actively inebriated.

~faith,

Timothy.

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.
oh my! Potheads over drunks, and patients high on whatever they took in their medicine cabinet. Violent patient high on cocaine...... give me the pothead

Why should there have to be choice?

(Not referring to patients in need here but) the lesser of evils...is still inherently evil...especially when no evil is necessary.

I would rather not deal with the drunk, the coke head OR the pothead. We shouldn't have to deal with any idiot that uses any drugs irresponsibly.

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

And, lol, I'm pretty sure you didn't give him 500mgs of fentanyl patches....

I believe that you meant 500mcgs of fentanyl.

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If this debate was say, oh, winnable by either side of the issue - I think the poll numbers would result in a resounding win for the folks who think that patients SHOULD have the right to use medical mj.

BUUUUT - this is starting to sound like a debate with Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter vs just about everybody over stem cell research.

Hey, let's start a poll on that!

This one has boiled down to a few people :deadhorse

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Specializes in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc.

I have seen it with pts that need it, I have seen pts that need it and can't get it...I am 100% behind the use of it in medicine...if I could be 200% or more behind it...I would be!

Most of my clients that can not use it stem from the fact that they can't smoke it...and 'special cookies/brownies' don't have the same effect or they have no appetite. I have seen a humidifier heater type machine that can give the needed dose to a patient in much the same way as a neb! No smoke to choke on!!!! This will be a very good resource when they get less expensive and orderable!

And I guess these machines only heat in the area needed, and are digitalized for dose, turn off time, and heat lessening the risks of fire or burns (because after the medication you may forget to turn it off).

I am new on these machines and researching them for a family member who suffers from chronic neuropathy pain 24/7 with the addition of bells palsy, and chronic shaking of the head and facial nerves. This pt can get the Rx, but can't smoke it and is very timid about it in the first place with all the controversy. But I would rather have it available to try if it helps them get out of bed without searing flame pain in both legs, and head shaking so hard they can't stand or sit!

I love this person, it is too hard to watch this and it isn't fatal and they are only in their 50's!!! This person is going to live a long time with this...why not be able to try something that may work!? They are also loosing weight big time. The other meds work for a while...then not and here goes the whole change of med thing! I would like to have the option to try this for them!

And that goes for my pts that could benifit...why not be able to try it too??? If it works, isn't that worth it all???

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The kahunas?

Don't you learn about pain management? You're supposed to ask if the prescribed meds worked....

And, lol, I'm pretty sure you didn't give him 500mgs of fentanyl patches....

Uh yes i did they. were 100mg each and i took off five and put on five, of course on a different location.

about my kahunas, i am a student, i was nervous because this was the first actually dying man i have taken care of, i was a little intimidated by his disease process, and i was trying to make conversation with him because the nurses around him wouldnt talk to him because they put a label on him.....he was a nice, sweet man i just hope that he is comfy to this day!

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Uh yes i did they. were 100mg each and i took off five and put on five, of course on a different location.

about my kahunas, i am a student, i was nervous because this was the first actually dying man i have taken care of, i was a little intimidated by his disease process, and i was trying to make conversation with him because the nurses around him wouldnt talk to him because they put a label on him.....he was a nice, sweet man i just hope that he is comfy to this day!

I hope he is, too - but I hope you never give anyone 500mg of fentanyl. As someone pointed out earlier, those were 100mcg (MICROGRAM) patches. Being off by an order of magnitude would be a pretty serious med error. :uhoh3:

It would be the same as giving someone 2 grams of dilaudid instead of 2mg.

Sorry, all this is off-topic, and I have no qualms with your um, kahunas.

Just wanted to make sure we all got on the same page with the dosage thing.

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

And while I would love to know what your "kahunas" are?

(any relation to cojones(sp)?)

Kahunas is a name for a type of Hawaiian priest. Cojones is a Hispanic word refer to pant/masculine anatomy/slang for gutsy

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Specializes in High Risk In Patient OB/GYN.
Uh yes i did they. were 100mg each and i took off five and put on five, of course on a different location.

about my kahunas, i am a student, i was nervous because this was the first actually dying man i have taken care of, i was a little intimidated by his disease process, and i was trying to make conversation with him because the nurses around him wouldnt talk to him because they put a label on him

lol, see above. As I said, I doubt you gave him 500mg of fentanyl. ;)

I hope you and your kahunas have a wonderful (and safe) nursing career! (but again, but doing your job, even as a student, even if you were nervous, I don't think showed your balls any more than taking his BP or dressing a wound would have).

Kelly

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Specializes in Urgent Care.
Very nice post. :yeah:

The real truth is, there are better meds for sick people. The real truth is, the reason most folks want this legalized is to get high, not to medicate against nausea.

This IS the thread (right?) where I mentioned the two young men who got pulled over by my nephew (the CHP) and they whipped out prescriptions for the pot they had been smoking (while driving). There is a totally bitchen doc in the Santa Cruz area who routinely writes scripts for pot . . . dude.:monkeydance: :smokin:

Having a prescription for grass does not make it legal to drive impaired. It jsut means that the cop wont be taking the pot. Alcohol is legal for everyone and you still get charged with DUI if you drink and drive.

Not the greates argument AGAINST MJ scrips.

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Specializes in Urgent Care.
You answer your own question.

Unlike alcohol, you cannot test for MJ actively affecting an employee. It remains in your system for much longer than it affects you.

If you are so sick with cancer that it is so debilitating that only MJ can help you gain a foothold, then you are too sick to be working, anyway. I do agree that there are more effective meds on the market.

However, if I were dying of cancer, I'd seriously consider using MJ. After all, as you suggest, it's not like it's hard to get.

But, if I'm planning on working on Monday, and I use MJ, I SHOULD lose my job.

The comparisons w/ alcohol don't match. I can test you to see if you are actively under the influence of alcohol.

I say fine, I've agreed with you. Decriminalize it. But:

1. allow for the legal termination from any employ of pot users.

2. even if you disagree with the above, its use WILL STILL result in revocation of licensure, even if legalized. The BONs have a greater responsibility to the public to not do anything else.

Don't ever count on the ability to party with MJ on your off days as a nurse. I think MJ WILL ultimately be decriminalized. But, not for nurses, mass transit operators, etc. etc.

~faith,

Timothy.

But back to the other reply you had on this. How about vicodin? your line of reasoning would lead to revoking the license of any user of legal prescription drugs that could be detected in your system but you cant tell if you are under the influence. Vicodin effects =8-12 hrs max no matter how you slice it. this class of drugs is detectable in urine for several weeks after use. How would you determine if the nurse is under the influence at work? you cant. and since it is still in their urine would you suspend their license? if not what makes the difference between the vicodin and MJ?

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Specializes in MS.
Decriminalize it. Increase tax income from it's sale, increase farming jobs, decrease court cost w/ prosecution, decrease jail time R/T violation of its use & distribution (and perhaps allow for criminals who have commited serious crimes to fulfill their entire sentence vs. early release d/t overcrowding).

Also, I'd rather see a pothead any day than a drunk. JMO though :)

AMEN,I totally agree!!!

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