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I'm not on here often, but I figured I'd get down to something that's been bothering me. I've been DNR'd from 3 facilities unfortunately. Actually 4. I was wondering if it's like a permanent thing with the agency you work with. It's been almost a year since I've been put on their DNR list, would it still affect me if I tried to get a job at that facility? Or is it kind of like "You can never come back here again even if you put time into another facility"? I work full time at one facility I recently started with and would like to put some time in. The longest time of employment in the 10 years I've worked jobs between non-healthcare related and healthcare related is 2 years to 2.5 years. I was young, still am depending on who you ask, and I was constantly burned out with everything. I'm trying to build impressive resume with work history ranging from 5 years to 10 years. Is DNR permanent regardless of agency or only an agency thing? 

1 minute ago, CommunityRNBSN said:

The reality is we have no idea why he/she was banned from four hospitals. I assure you it wasn’t for playing Candy Crush once in a patient’s room. 
 

OP: I agree with the other poster who said, You don’t have to tell us, but you need to do some deep thinking before you go get yourself kicked out of more facilities. If you REALLY have no idea why (other than one time having your phone out), you might want to invest in a few sessions with a therapist who can help you identify what happened. 

Could very well be for playing candy crush. MANY facilities have a zero tolerance policy for using personal cell phones. The policy reads, you will be walked out the door when caught. 

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If I recall, you got pretty hot headed about not being allowed to squat in the parking lot of your facility as a living situation in your van not so long ago and got very VERY angry at the idea that the person in charge of the facility made a lot of money and therefore shouldn't be stopping you from doing that. All attempts here to explain the logic of this to you fell on deaf ears and you were super hostile, self righteous and combative. I suspect that isn't limited just to us here online.

This is the kind of stuff that gets you banned from ever returning. And for many places, that ban is indeed forever.

You need to consider that the common denominator in these four facilities is....you. Self reflection is strongly advised.

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43 minutes ago, Nurse SMS said:

If I recall, you got pretty hot headed about not being allowed to squat in the parking lot of your facility as a living situation in your van not so long ago and got very VERY angry at the idea that the person in charge of the facility made a lot of money and therefore shouldn't be stopping you from doing that. All attempts here to explain the logic of this to you fell on deaf ears and you were super hostile, self righteous and combative. I suspect that isn't limited just to us here online.

This is the kind of stuff that gets you banned from ever returning. And for many places, that ban is indeed forever.

I knew I recognized this username!
 

I think the best option here is for you to talk to the agency that you worked for to determine why you were placed on these lists. Can it cause you to not be hired at a facility? Sure. At the worst, you can apply for those positions and they can refuse to offer you a job. 

With that being said...being asked not to return to one job is frustrating. Two jobs, I imagine would be very upsetting. FOUR seems a bit excessive. Maybe some self reflection would serve you best in this situation. You’re not creating a strong track record if you’re wanting to create a solid resume by stacking up a list of facilities that have requested you to not return. 

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9 hours ago, Nurse SMS said:

If I recall, you got pretty hot headed about not being allowed to squat in the parking lot of your facility as a living situation in your van not so long ago and got very VERY angry at the idea that the person in charge of the facility made a lot of money and therefore shouldn't be stopping you from doing that. All attempts here to explain the logic of this to you fell on deaf ears and you were super hostile, self righteous and combative. I suspect that isn't limited just to us here online.

Oh my!  Well that changes things! 

Every time I start to think that maybe getting advice from strangers on the internet isn't very productive, someone posts something to remind me that not everyone is a stranger, and the detectives among us are watching for patterns.

OP, if @Nurse SMS is correct in this recollection, then it's safe to say the facilities are pretty firm in not wanting you back.  I'm also a bit confused by the fact that when asked for reasons for the bans, you admit to using your phone once, but leave out trying to pull a Chris Farley in your employer's parking lot.  I mean, that's not a run of the mill mistake; it's definitely the kind of thing that makes people remember you...and not in a good way.

So are you not admitting to things like that because you think it will make you look bad here, or do you genuinely not think of incidents like that as something ban-worthy? Some people think that as long as they don't do the SPECIFIC thing that is against the rules, they're okay.  So, maybe you understand that being on your phone got you banned because there's a stated policy that personal phones are not allowed in the facility.  But do you understand (like deep down truly understand and agree) that employers can also object to behavior that deviates from the norm and/or is jut unpleasant?  That it's not reasonable for employers to spell out every.single.thing that could get you fired, but giving attitude about moving your van is a big mistake, even if the handbook doesn't say you can't live in the parking lot?

There are a lot of facilities out there, but unless you make some changes, eventually you're going to run out of places willing to hire (or keep) you.  Maybe reach out to the agency and see if someone can give you some feedback, and if someone does, try to listen to it with the intent to understand and grow rather than to defend and rationalize.  Making changes is hard.

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10 hours ago, Nurse SMS said:

If I recall, you got pretty hot headed about not being allowed to squat in the parking lot of your facility ...

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You need to consider that the common denominator in these four facilities is....you. Self reflection is strongly advised.

^^^ This, I absolutely remember this poster's past threads and was going to post up almost the same thing but you beat me to it.  Good advice about self reflection too.

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13 hours ago, turtlesRcool said:

  But do you understand (like deep down truly understand and agree) that employers can also object to behavior that deviates from the norm and/or is jut unpleasant?  That it's not reasonable for employers to spell out every.single.thing that could get you fired, but giving attitude about moving your van is a big mistake, even if the handbook doesn't say you can't live in the parking lot?

I want to print this out and post it on the walls!  Almost all adults realize this, but somehow the occasional one just doesn’t get it. We have one at my work right now. She behaves outrageously and then will say “Nobody told me XYZ is against the rules” and then get legitimately mad about it because it’s not “policy”. 

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On 10/16/2020 at 5:25 AM, caliotter3 said:

It makes no sense that no one will give you a reason why

Legal reasons. With some issues, and enployee safety, most places will not discuss any aspect of a termination, to protect those involved, as well as current employees

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On 10/16/2020 at 4:57 AM, Beldar_the_Cenobite said:

I'm not on here often, but I figured I'd get down to something that's been bothering me. I've been DNR'd from 3 facilities unfortunately. Actually 4. I was wondering if it's like a permanent thing with the agency you work with. It's been almost a year since I've been put on their DNR list, would it still affect me if I tried to get a job at that facility? Or is it kind of like "You can never come back here again even if you put time into another facility"? I work full time at one facility I recently started with and would like to put some time in. The longest time of employment in the 10 years I've worked jobs between non-healthcare related and healthcare related is 2 years to 2.5 years. I was young, still am depending on who you ask, and I was constantly burned out with everything. I'm trying to build impressive resume with work history ranging from 5 years to 10 years. Is DNR permanent regardless of agency or only an agency thing? 

I would choose a different facility if I was you. You can always try though because they can change their mind 

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On 10/20/2020 at 9:47 AM, Jedrnurse said:

Nope. I arrived to my first job with my halo fully charged and glowing.

I feel cheated! No one offered me a halo ?

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40 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

I feel cheated! No one offered me a halo ?

Sigh. You're either born with one or not...

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16 minutes ago, Jedrnurse said:

Sigh. You're either born with one or not...

Oh dears. I just have 2 pointy protrusions from my scalp ?

 

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3 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Oh dears. I just have 2 pointy protrusions from my scalp ?

 

We all have to play to our strengths.

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