Do not return list

[Beldar_the_Cenobite, CNA]

I'm not on here often, but I figured I'd get down to something that's been bothering me. I've been DNR'd from 3 facilities unfortunately. Actually 4. I was wondering if it's like a permanent thing with the agency you work with. It's been almost a year since I've been put on their DNR list, would it still affect me if I tried to get a job at that facility? Or is it kind of like "You can never come back here again even if you put time into another facility"? I work full time at one facility I recently started with and would like to put some time in. The longest time of employment in the 10 years I've worked jobs between non-healthcare related and healthcare related is 2 years to 2.5 years. I was young, still am depending on who you ask, and I was constantly burned out with everything. I'm trying to build impressive resume with work history ranging from 5 years to 10 years. Is DNR permanent regardless of agency or only an agency thing? 

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

That would depend on the facility and / or the agency policy. Might as well apply for the job and see what happens.

If you have been asked not to return to four facilities, perhaps this career is not right for you. What is going to make this job any different?

 

[Beldar_the_Cenobite, CNA]

1 minute ago, Been there,done that said:

That would depend on the facility and / or the agency policy. Might as well apply for the job and see what happens.

If you have been asked not to return to four facilities, perhaps this job is not right for you. What is going to make this job any different?

 

I have never been asked or told that I can never come back. It gets reported to the agency. Even the agency hasn't told me unless I asked which I thought was strange. 

[caliotter3]

None of us works for your agency or any of those employers so we can’t speak for or about them. The best way to find out the answers to your questions is to call the agency and the employers and ask. It makes no sense that no one will give you a reason why. If it were me, I would get away from that agency as well as stay away from those employers, and try to build a positive work history anywhere else. Sometimes you just can’t change negativity from your end of the employment stick.

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

26 minutes ago, Beldar_the_Cenobite said:

I have never been asked or told that I can never come back. It gets reported to the agency. Even the agency hasn't told me unless I asked which I thought was strange. 

The facility did not tell YOU, because you are actually employed by the agency, not the facility. The agency should have been forthcoming with that information, they did not.. because they want you to keep working for them. Realize that.. the agency does  not get paid... unless YOU work. 

Bottom line here is, you have to find out where your performance fails. That is the only way you can learn, improve, and keep your current job.

[Jedrnurse, BSN, RN]

It's sort of creepy that they call it a "DNR" list...

Do you have any recollections of experiences during shifts that you think might have signaled this happening?

[turtlesRcool]

First, no one here can tell you exactly what the policies are.  Different facilities will have different policies in place.  

Can you elaborate on your relationship with the agency and the facilities?  Are these short term contracts obtained through the agency like travel nursing?  Or is your agency more like an employment agency that helps the facility find nurses?  I guess my question is were you technically an agency employee working for a facility or were you a full-on hospital employee who was assisted in your job search by the agency?  I ask because there are facilities who might ask for an agency nurse not to return for a variety of reasons (like maybe you were too slow getting up to speed and they want nurses who can hit the ground running), but that's not the same as being banned from being rehired by the organization (like if you applied directly to a permanent position directly with them and go through their standard orientation).  

That said, facilities can put former employees on do not rehire lists, and those can be temporary or permanent.  Usually a "do not rehire" designation is reserved for an employee who parted on bad terms with the facility.  Is that the case with you?  Most stories of do not rehire come from when a nurse is fired for a major issue or fails to follow established procedure (like quitting and not giving notice),  From the limited information here, I'm not sure if the agency "do not return" list is the same as the demarkation "not eligible for rehire."

I guess one way to find out is to apply to the job you want, and see what happens.

[Beldar_the_Cenobite, CNA]

On 10/16/2020 at 8:43 AM, Jedrnurse said:

It's sort of creepy that they call it a "DNR" list...

Do you have any recollections of experiences during shifts that you think might have signaled this happening?

Yeah, one facility I admit I was wrong. I was on my phone in a room before I was about to go home for the day. 

1 hour ago, turtlesRcool said:

First, no one here can tell you exactly what the policies are.  Different facilities will have different policies in place.  

Can you elaborate on your relationship with the agency and the facilities?  Are these short term contracts obtained through the agency like travel nursing?  Or is your agency more like an employment agency that helps the facility find nurses?  I guess my question is were you technically an agency employee working for a facility or were you a full-on hospital employee who was assisted in your job search by the agency?  I ask because there are facilities who might ask for an agency nurse not to return for a variety of reasons (like maybe you were too slow getting up to speed and they want nurses who can hit the ground running), but that's not the same as being banned from being rehired by the organization (like if you applied directly to a permanent position directly with them and go through their standard orientation).  

That said, facilities can put former employees on do not rehire lists, and those can be temporary or permanent.  Usually a "do not rehire" designation is reserved for an employee who parted on bad terms with the facility.  Is that the case with you?  Most stories of do not rehire come from when a nurse is fired for a major issue or fails to follow established procedure (like quitting and not giving notice),  From the limited information here, I'm not sure if the agency "do not return" list is the same as the demarkation "not eligible for rehire."

I guess one way to find out is to apply to the job you want, and see what happens.

CNA here, it's agency to work for the facility you pick up. Not full employment. Just being on my phone was the problem. 

[DaniannaRN, ASN, BSN]

You don't have to tell us, but try to think about if there was anything else.  Maybe you disagreed with one of their employees or said something that someone perceived as rude?  Or maybe they kept telling you to put your phone away due to excessive use and you kept doing it?  

I would just try to work for other facilities besides those.  Nursing homes/rehabs are always in need of CNAs in many areas so there has to be at least a few facilities that you can try.  Also, get the agency to tell you what these facilities said about you, so you can improve yourself for next time.

I understand being young and acting bad at work.  I really do understand because I've been there, many of us have.  Now you've learned your lesson....so just start fresh where no one knows you and won't know about your history.  Even if one of those former facilities did rehire you, they would remember how you were before and not see how you are now.

[trytounderstand]

First question, why did you even have your personal phone out in a patient/client room.  Why were you making a phone call?  Was it important or an emergency?  Were you just chatting with a friend?  You stated you were about to leave work.  That personal phone call unless it was a dire emergency could have waited until you were no longer responsible for taking care of patients.

You should contact the agency and respectfully request the reasons why the facilities have requested you not to return.  Then figure out how to improve if you want to stay in this line of work.  

 

[Jedrnurse, BSN, RN]

12 hours ago, DaniannaRN said:

 

I understand being young and acting bad at work.  I really do understand because I've been there, many of us have.

Nope. I arrived to my first job with my halo fully charged and glowing.

[CommunityRNBSN, BSN, RN]

21 hours ago, trytounderstand said:

First question, why did you even have your personal phone out in a patient/client room.  Why were you making a phone call?  Was it important or an emergency?  Were you just chatting with a friend?  You stated you were about to leave work.  That personal phone call unless it was a dire emergency could have waited until you were no longer responsible for taking care patients

The reality is we have no idea why he/she was banned from four hospitals. I assure you it wasn’t for playing Candy Crush once in a patient’s room. 
 

OP: I agree with the other poster who said, You don’t have to tell us, but you need to do some deep thinking before you go get yourself kicked out of more facilities. If you REALLY have no idea why (other than one time having your phone out), you might want to invest in a few sessions with a therapist who can help you identify what happened.