Do Nurses Eat Their Young?

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We have all heard the saying "Nurses eat their young". Do you feel this is true?

Please feel free to read and post any comments that you have right here in this discussion

Thanks.

This article sums it up for me... ?

http://www.dcardillo.com/articles/eatyoung.html

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This vile expression implies that experienced nurses do not treat new nurses kindly. My first problem with the statement is that it’s a generalization implying that all nurses are like that. Interestingly, whenever I hear someone utter the expression, I always say, “I don’t do that. Do you?” The person making the statement always says, “Oh no, I don’t, but many others do.” I’ve never heard even one nurse own up to doing this, although some nurses are willing to indict the entire profession. Every time that statement is repeated, it causes harm and casts a dark shadow on every nurse. Say anything enough, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Please note that by moderator consensus some of the "Nurses Eat Their Young" posts will be referred to this thread where there can be an ongoing discussion, rather than several threads saying the same thing.

To students and new grads that are having problems with nurses, please take a moment to read the above link. Is it really the entire profession, every single nurse, or do you need help with one or a few nurses? We will be glad to help you in dealing with those people, but let bury the phrase "Nurses Eat Their Young".

To experienced nurses who claim our profession eats it's young, please take a moment to read it as well and think about it. Also take time to teach, be friendly and nurturing to the new nurse and students on your unit.

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.
originally posted by nightngale1998

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how do you go about changing the climate so that people will want to and be able to become nurses and stay actively nursing? that is the question that truly needs to be answered.

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how do i deal with it? i refuse to be a part of it. one day at a time i embrace my colleagues, nurture where i may be of assitance, and look for ways to keep myself nurtured and positive.

let it start somewhere... let it begin with you.....

b.

you said it so eloquently and from the heart! my sentiments exactly! :kiss

If nurses eat their young, do loins go to schools to learn how to take care of each other.

"In the hospital, the mighty hospital, the nurse sleeps tonight"

A-ween-ba-weh

Originally posted by Jenny P

For each of you who say that "nurses eat their young", how many of you interfere with it happening and defend the nurse being eaten? How mny of you do stand up to the poisoned tongued nurse who is berating the new/inexperienced/less seasoned nurse? Only by standing up to witches each and every time will our profession lose this identity. We can not tolerate this type of behavior either individually or as a group; it is each and everyone of us' responsibility to do this each and every time it happens.

I am pretty outspoken in general and don't let that type of BS go on without saying something. I in fact tend to freak out too far the other way and actually left a young-eater crying once. It was a really bad day:devil:

I have been a Registered Nurse for approximately 4 months. And I am sorry to say that overall I think that Nurses do eat their young. Perhaps it is unintentional, but in acute care situations where everyone is very busy, the arrival of a nurse, fresh from School is not greeted with huge enthusiasm. In the case of our ward, we have 6 new graduates. I have gone from being a student to being a new graduate!! I really thought that this year, finally, i would be part of the team! I can see it both ways. I can see that the staff are stressed and having to take someone new under their wing and help them to get started is not easy. It just adds to the workload for the nurses. But arriving in your first nursing job isnt that easy either. I know that I know lots of things, but I dont know where we keep tape or how to page the right doctor or .. hundreds of other things and somedays I come home so aware of my shortcomings and completely lacking confidenc in my ability to be a competent nurse.

I was listening to some of the hospital aides talking the other day, and i think that they correctly identified the problem. The tendency is for us to feedback to people when they screw up. On the days that you manage your patient load well, have all the dressings done before lunch and manage to have all your notes finished by 3pm, no one says "well done", but you will generally get feedback on the days that you arent keeping up.

That is one concept that i want to incorporate into my practice. I think we all need positive feedback a lot more often. Just bear in mind that the average experienced nurse can handle the odd bit of criticism, because she knows that she can keep up/do the job. The average new graduate isnt quite certain they can keep up/do the job, so negative criticism can be very hard on their self esteem.

Linz

Specializes in obstetrics(high risk antepartum, L/D,etc.

When I was a student many years ago, we were told "you know when you have done something wrong. Often you need to be told that you did something right". ----- So far as eating each other, my question is - What would you do if you were the "eatee" and no one stood up for you and you were in no position to stand up for yourself? I've been there and it's not a good place to be, and there is no good solution.:stone

Judy, you are always in a position to stand up for yourself as long as it is done professionally(a simple tactful explanation of the problem). Unfortnately you can't wait for someone else to do it for you because it just won't happen. If it really bothers you I say leave. There are a lot of great nursing jobs out there, so I would never stay at a facility where I didn't feel valued by my coworkers.

O yes, we eat our young, our old, our fat, our thin, our smoker, our sick, our different............

look on this BB, we eat each other!!

Bon Appetit, Renee

yup.

I've seen it happen and I'm not even a nurse yet. (3/4 there)

Almost happened to me, but thankfully I had an instructor there to back me up.

I have read the replies to the question posted and really appreciated all the opinions expressed.I do believe and agree with Nightingale 1998,that it is a people issue,not a nursing issue.But,given the arena where we encounter it most frequently,it is easy to return to the old cliche.When I worked as a clinic nurse,I was belittled because I didn't work at the hospital.When I worked at the hospital,it came from within nursing's internal structure.Now,I'm a school nurse,and believe me,the lowest on the food chain according to most nurse's opinions I encounter.As women,we are nurturers, and yet we witness daily, our sisters negative behaviors with regards to each other.For myself,outside validation is nice,but being centered as a person,helps me best.I practice good self-care,provide good care in my practice as a nurse,look for opportunities to be the best mentor I can be, and let the rest fall where it may."Nurses eat their young" only if on a personal basis,we willingly participate.

When I saw this poll, I thought it said "HOW do nurses eat their young?"

All I could think was--"With relish!"

Gotta get those eyes checked,

Mel

I in fact tend to freak out too far the other way and actually left a young-eater crying once. It was a really bad day.
Ooh, fergus--details, please!!

I had never heard this saying before but I have seen it and felt it in action. For thoses in the situation now --have faith and look around there has to be someone one the unit that is receptive -find them. As for us older nurses- we may know what is going on on the floor but the new grads have all the new knowledge; try to learn from each other. New nurses please hang in there we need you so deparately and the pieces will come together, I promise!

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