Do Nurses Eat Their Young?

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We have all heard the saying "Nurses eat their young". Do you feel this is true?

Please feel free to read and post any comments that you have right here in this discussion

Thanks.

This article sums it up for me... ?

http://www.dcardillo.com/articles/eatyoung.html

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This vile expression implies that experienced nurses do not treat new nurses kindly. My first problem with the statement is that it’s a generalization implying that all nurses are like that. Interestingly, whenever I hear someone utter the expression, I always say, “I don’t do that. Do you?” The person making the statement always says, “Oh no, I don’t, but many others do.” I’ve never heard even one nurse own up to doing this, although some nurses are willing to indict the entire profession. Every time that statement is repeated, it causes harm and casts a dark shadow on every nurse. Say anything enough, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Please note that by moderator consensus some of the "Nurses Eat Their Young" posts will be referred to this thread where there can be an ongoing discussion, rather than several threads saying the same thing.

To students and new grads that are having problems with nurses, please take a moment to read the above link. Is it really the entire profession, every single nurse, or do you need help with one or a few nurses? We will be glad to help you in dealing with those people, but let bury the phrase "Nurses Eat Their Young".

To experienced nurses who claim our profession eats it's young, please take a moment to read it as well and think about it. Also take time to teach, be friendly and nurturing to the new nurse and students on your unit.

Specializes in aged -adolescent.

I wonder if you have been working at the same place as I did LOL. We had a overall person in charge who was absolutely spineless. The nursing supervisor had three nurses leave because of her mind games, lies and manipulation and she even caused a very valuable and trusted person to leave after a great amount of time. From what I've heard in other places, she's dangerous and can't get a position elsewhere.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

The thing I could never forgive this person for was the way she humiliated a sweet nurse that had been there for 25 years by asking harsh and unnecessary questions or comments in front of everyone nearby. Watching this lady's crestfallen face was gut-wrenching - and all the doctors loved this nurse!.

I wish I had stood up for her at the time - but hindsight and all - she retired - but not the way she should have. She was bullied out the door. :-(

Unfortunately, I think too much of the horizontal violence in nursing is a result of managers either ignoring it or encouraging it. They encourage it by allowing "tattling", "writeups" without appropriate documentation, and just plain favoritism.

Until nursing management puts its collective foot (feet?) down and refuses to allow this, it will continue.

Been eaten, won't be eaten again!

Oldiebutgoodie

Specializes in Cardiology and ER Nursing.

I have a pit out back where I smoke the young. They go great great with an ice cold Budweiser.

When I was a student I had a clinical course at one of those type hospitals where 90% of the nurses were imported from one country and all management were waspy. This was ICU. In report we all would listen to a taped report by the night charge and damn if the NM for days not only allowed but encouraged the harrassment of this taped nurse by all day staff listening to report. This nurse was older, white, overweight, but according to my fellow night classmates the only teacher-type on the unit. At that point I couldn't are about this hospital and actually interrupted the pile on one morning by mumbling that I had heard that this nurse is the only one on nights that can actually answer a technically intense question. I got silence in return for that quip. Probably never be able to work there because I basically insulted all (wrong race anyway, LOL). But never even thought to apply there either.

Lucky for me, I went to nursing school and learned at a fantasitc hospital in Coos Bay, Oregon. I only had one nurse who was more intrested in being nasty than in helping me learn, funny she's not there anymore!

Greatshakes

The issue happened in 2009 and they sent my stuff to the boards. They documented anything & everything. I had a manager that promoted this behavior and how I know is because when I was sitting in her office for one of the write ups that the other nurses wrote about me ... I asked her why is it that they are so focused on me when they are guilty of the same accusations. She said, well why dont you write them up too? I remember looking at her like, "this doesnt sound right.

I continued to work with that same unit and the final straw was whhen a few nurses got together and wrote me up, signed the paper, got me in big trouble with the manager and the director. They let me go after this. The charge nurse was no help. She was on the their side and it didnt matter how hard i worked ... they only nit picked the wrongs.

This was my first job ... my first real career job. I was really naive. I didnt know what a union was and now i cant do anything about it. The boards ... have my case as an open investigation case right now. I dont know whats going to happen, but its been a terrible experience and I feel like my life has been put on hold.

Nursel56

She was probably bullied right out the door because all the doctors loved her. There is something about that, that makes other nurses feel inferior. So sad to hear that because I was in her shoes... bullied right out the door =( I hope she's in a better place.

As a new nurse, I have to say that I have definitely encountered this! A lot of nurses are great mentors and have the patience and understanding to lend a helping hand or 'verify' something that a newbie is questioning. BUT....I have had a seasoned nurse look at me as if I had two heads when I asked her to step in the room while I suctioned my patient to make sure I was doing it properly. I was working on a cardiac unit, still in orientation, and had never suctioned a patient before. She looked wide-eyed at me and said "what do you mean you've never suctioned a patient?" and shook her head, sighed, and practically threw her hands in the air. It wasn't even that I was pulling her away from 'busy' work, she was supposed to be overseeing me that day. Granted, it is extremely easy, but when attempting something for the first time, anyone can be nervous.

I have been in positions of authority before and would never treat someone who was trying to learn in that way. At least I asked to be 'double-checked' when doing a new task, and didn't just go in and wing it.

Specializes in MPCU.
As a new nurse, I have to say that I have definitely encountered this! A lot of nurses are great mentors and have the patience and understanding to lend a helping hand or 'verify' something that a newbie is questioning. BUT....I have had a seasoned nurse look at me as if I had two heads when I asked her to step in the room while I suctioned my patient to make sure I was doing it properly. I was working on a cardiac unit, still in orientation, and had never suctioned a patient before. She looked wide-eyed at me and said "what do you mean you've never suctioned a patient?" and shook her head, sighed, and practically threw her hands in the air. It wasn't even that I was pulling her away from 'busy' work, she was supposed to be overseeing me that day. Granted, it is extremely easy, but when attempting something for the first time, anyone can be nervous.

I have been in positions of authority before and would never treat someone who was trying to learn in that way. At least I asked to be 'double-checked' when doing a new task, and didn't just go in and wing it.

Just shows you're wise. No matter how simple, the first time should be under supervision.

Thanks Woodenpug :)

Specializes in Emergency Medicine.

Yes we eat our young... they taste like chicken.

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