Do Nurses Eat Their Young?

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We have all heard the saying "Nurses eat their young". Do you feel this is true?

Please feel free to read and post any comments that you have right here in this discussion

Thanks.

This article sums it up for me... ?

http://www.dcardillo.com/articles/eatyoung.html

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This vile expression implies that experienced nurses do not treat new nurses kindly. My first problem with the statement is that it’s a generalization implying that all nurses are like that. Interestingly, whenever I hear someone utter the expression, I always say, “I don’t do that. Do you?” The person making the statement always says, “Oh no, I don’t, but many others do.” I’ve never heard even one nurse own up to doing this, although some nurses are willing to indict the entire profession. Every time that statement is repeated, it causes harm and casts a dark shadow on every nurse. Say anything enough, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Please note that by moderator consensus some of the "Nurses Eat Their Young" posts will be referred to this thread where there can be an ongoing discussion, rather than several threads saying the same thing.

To students and new grads that are having problems with nurses, please take a moment to read the above link. Is it really the entire profession, every single nurse, or do you need help with one or a few nurses? We will be glad to help you in dealing with those people, but let bury the phrase "Nurses Eat Their Young".

To experienced nurses who claim our profession eats it's young, please take a moment to read it as well and think about it. Also take time to teach, be friendly and nurturing to the new nurse and students on your unit.

Specializes in Operating Room Nursing.

Sometimes you just can't win. Apparently I'm a big bully because I gave a student a not so great appraisal. Doesn't matter that I constantly had to prompt them every step of the way, they kept sitting down while there was work to be done (bad bad move) and demonstrated zero interest, I'm a big meanie. :uhoh3:

Specializes in Trauma Surgery, Nursing Management.

I. Can't. Believe. This. Thread. Is. Still. Alive.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
this is interesting. the vast majority of responders say "yes, nurses eat their young." and they all go on to describe how someone bullied them. but no one admits to being the bully. if most nurses are bullies, then how is it that the 2000 responders on this thread just happen to be in the nurturing minority?

sorry, the statistics don't add up--either this site draws a disproportionate number of unusually nice people, or the nurses here just aren't being honest. out of 2000 people, at LEAST one of you is bound to be a jerk. realistically, more like 30 % of any demographic is made up total jerks- nurses, doctors, policemen, school teachers

First, the question doesn't ask nurses if they think they are a bully. They might not agree that a tone of voice perceived by a beginner as "biting their head off" is proof positive that they are a devouring monster. Even if they know their motive is to always be on the lookout for new prey to destroy, they may know a colleague who isn't that way so they decide not to describe the entire group that way. You probably won't find very many responses that say "I am the nicest nurse in the world" either, for the same reason. It asks for a "yes" or "no" about a group that includes several hundred thousand people. It asks for an answer that is subjective, and uses an unobservable scale. So if someone answers "yes, nurses eat their young, because one nurse bit my head off once" it doesn't prove the point that "nurses eat their young". It asks for an opinion. 2000 opinions don't make for scientific fact.

. of all you victims, not one of you ever gossiped about a new employee? cussed out someone because you were having a bad day? turned someone into a pariah at work because you were jealous of them? got ****** off at students because they didn't get down on their knees and worship you for being an older, more "seasoned" employee?

Not every nurse is a member of allnurses and not all members respond to every thread. People who've had negative experiences are more likely to respond than those with positive experiences. This thread was started 9 years ago. I wonder how many students in 2002 believed nurses ate their young, and would have a different response now after actually being a nurse instead of judging them from the outside.

For someone who is just starting out you seem unusually bitter and hostile. It must have taken quite a while to read through all 2000 responses. It takes a lot of emotional investment in an issue to do that. I'm sorry if you think my saying that makes me a bully. Maybe your view wouldn't be as sour if you read 2000 posts about nurses who have helped and supported people here and students/nurses showing their appreciation. Here is one.

https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/daytonite-has-passed-476765.html

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
this is interesting. the vast majority of responders say "yes, nurses eat their young." and they all go on to describe how someone bullied them. but no one admits to being the bully. if most nurses are bullies, then how is it that the 2000 responders on this thread just happen to be in the nurturing minority?

sorry, the statistics don't add up--either this site draws a disproportionate number of unusually nice people, or the nurses here just aren't being honest. out of 2000 people, at least one of you is bound to be a jerk. realistically, more like 30 % of any demographic is made up total jerks- nurses, doctors, policemen, school teachers. of all you victims, not one of you ever gossiped about a new employee? cussed out someone because you were having a bad day? turned someone into a pariah at work because you were jealous of them? got ****** off at students because they didn't get down on their knees and worship you for being an older, more "seasoned" employee?

and no, i can't admit to being a baby-nurse cannibal because i'm not a nurse yet. but maybe one day i'll get to take my own advice and say "mea culpa" to my students....after i regurgitate them.

evidently you just don't get it. if someone snaps at me, gossips about me or cusses me out, it's bullying. if i do that to someone else, it's because they deserved it, they got what was coming to them or i'm just not taking any bs off of them.

ruby, who has upon occasion snapped at or cussed out people who probably didn't deserve it, but tries very hard not to make a pattern of it.

Specializes in Acute Spine, Neuro, Thoracic's, LTC.
Specializes in CCU.

I was not trying to force a stereotype on the nursing profession as a whole, but I do feel like the "older" and more seasoned nurses are not as forgiving as the new (few years in) nurses are... I think that maybe some of the people need to remember just how it felt to be where the babies are!! I think that maybe they remember how it feels to be the new guy/girl and not knowing everything and they are more apt to help you without automatically forcing a stereotype on you as being slow or idiotic!! I feel like if you train someone well then they may be one of your best resources/allies later in life!

Specializes in Pulmonary/MedicalICU.
1) It's very naive to expect behavior in nursing that is out of line with behavior in the general working population.

2) What *I* often see is a lack of tolerance of divergent opinions, witness the personal attacks in this thread for daring to go against the popular tide.

3) Make people take personal responsibility for the actions they take. But I'm sure it's easier just to continue the same tired old cliches.

1) So....its OK if we do it because everyone else does it? That sounds like an excuse to me, and not an effort to rectify the problem. There is no viable reason to be harsh on students and new nurses. There is equally no viable reason to coddle said students and nurses. This is not black and white, there is a grey area. Also, this is not a black and white issue in relation to age, either. There are seasoned nurses who are great at leading young nurses in the right direction with just the right amount of personal responsibility...and there are young ones (who have been nurses for 2-5 years) who will look to ostracize a young nurse as soon as possible. I see it every day in my ICU...thankfully, not with the people I directly work with.

2) Glass house, stones, etc..

3) If a cliche is truthful, its not tired, old, and misused.

i kinda experience this kind of treatment so i would say, super true! i don't know why they're doing that but it sucks... i just hope more patience to new nurses as we are all came from that stage in our career before we became professionals.

OF COURSE THEY DO. I have a degree in finance, and worked in the business world for over 25 years. I am now in nursing school at the age of 50. One thing I have found to be true is that women in the business world are jealous, control freak, drama queens. I always thought that is was because of the field of work. Boy, was I :uhoh3: wrong. I have figured out that female nurses and business women are the same......nasty control freaks....

It is because of their gender. PS: I AM FEMALE!:eek:

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

I prefer them young and crispy with hot sauce......:smokin:

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
of course they do. i have a degree in finance, and worked in the business world for over 25 years. i am now in nursing school at the age of 50. one thing i have found to be true is that women in the business world are jealous, control freak, drama queens. i always thought that is was because of the field of work. boy, was i :uhoh3: wrong. i have figured out that female nurses and business women are the same......nasty control freaks....

it is because of their gender. ps: i am female!:eek:

another jealous, control freak, drama queen, nasty, misogynist female heard from!

Specializes in geriatrics.

It goes both ways. In quite a few threads around here, I have also witnessed younger nurses make nasty, disparaging remarks about senior nurses. I think we all need to be reminded from time to time to have a little more tolerance and compassion for each other.

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