Disrespectful to instructor....

hrtprncss · Sep 23, 2006

Here's a video of a student who made the error of picking up the cellphone in the middle of a lecture...

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Sep 23, 2006

Here's a video of a student who made the error of picking up the cellphone in the middle of a lecture...

Call me mean but he asked for it. I admire the professor's restraint lol.

KungFuFtr · Sep 23, 2006

I probably would have clapped.:yelclap:

Freedom42 · Sep 23, 2006

I've just returned to college for a second time to pursue a BSN. (I've worked in a non-related field for nearly 25 years.) I've been surprised by rude behavior in the classroom -- and even more surprised that age does not appear to be a factor. Some of the thirtysomethings are just as rude as the teens and early twentysomethings.

Our first assignment in my Intro to Nursing class was to read a 100-page book on power and group dynamics. I can accept that some of my classmates did not care for the book and disagreed with the author's point of view. I can't accept that some of my thirtysomething classmates pronounced the book "stupid" when queried by the professor and expressed total disdain for the assignment. (My sense is that disdain will be a common theme in their comments this semester.) Worse, one thirtysomething then announced that "(she) ain't gonna read to 100 pages a week for any course." Others complained that there was too much homework on the syllabus. (In my experience, this is a light class. When I earned my previous bachelor's degree, it was routine to be assigned 100 to 150 pages for the next class in each subject -- typically meeting two days later.)

What really raised my eyebrows was that all of this was said to an instructor who is on the nursing program's admission committee, and most people in my class have not yet been formally accepted. So if this is how these people behave around a professor who's in a position of authority, who wants to be their patient?

Rude, rude, rude. All of what they said could have been expressed in a civil, non-offensive tone.

Asklepios · Sep 24, 2006

I love that clip! They titled it "Angry Professor" but he didn't seem angry at all. He was very matter-of-fact, and I think he got his point across!

It never ceases to amaze me - whether at a meeting for my job or in class - when the manager or teacher tells people to shut off their cellphones, and inevitably one will ring in the middle of the event. What part of "shut your phone off" don't these people understand? If I were a professor I would tell students to leave their phones in their cars or don;t bother coming into my class. Then, of course, if there was an emergency and someone couldn't get through to a student, I'm sure an ACLU lawyer would show up to sue me and the school.

I think our society as a whole is so self obsessed that the selfishness and rude behavior doesn't really surprise me, but it does make me sad. Everyone is so caught up in having enough money to buy an SUV and a McMansion and big screen TV, that both parents have to work full time, and then they feel so guilty for not spending enough time with their kids that they try acting like their friends rather than their parents. This is why so many parents dote on their kids so much - running them to and fro every activity, sticking up for them if the kid misbehaves in school, etc. The parents set a bad example.

Our "get me a lawyer!" society is doomed to get even worse... :rolleyes:

lisabeth · Sep 24, 2006

I bet that guy was in a state of shock over his cellphone. I cant believe someone would have the nerve to answer the phone. :nono:

luvmy3kids · Sep 24, 2006

Ahhh, Yes... about the cell phone.... I have 3 kids... Our first day of class we were told not to use cell phones... if they had to be on then they had to be on vibrate and we could not use them at all during a test or quiz (obviously for texting the answers and such)

OK.... soo......The next class (Tues night class) we are taking our first quiz, and me.. being the good mom and considerate student, turned my phone onto vibrate so it wouldn't distract anyone, but I would be able to find out if there was an emergency with one of the kids (mine are prone to an ER visit at least once a month LOL).... and what happens you ask???

My dear sweet husband calls and leaves a MESSAGE!!! (something like wishing me good luck on the quiz) AAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!! The friggin phone kept going off because I had a voicemail... It was so embarrassing and annoying and I couldn't reach into my purse to turn it off because I would have been caught with my phone and he would have thought I was cheating... I was sweating and nervous as it was...

From then on, I turn my phone completely off if we are having a test or quiz. If something happens to one of the kids, there's nothing I can do about it anyway.. so I figure.. Oh well.... LOL

dougRN2BE · Sep 24, 2006

I teach at the University level and I don't know how it was before (only been teaching for a few years), but there just seems to be an atmosphere of cautiousness with everything. I had a girl in class who was being negative and would say, "this is stupid" when I would introduce an activity and just had negative energy. I sent her an email asking her if anything was wrong and that I would appreciate her respect in class. I also told her that if the behavior continued I would start docking her participation grade. As per policy, I cc'd my chair on the email and wow, was I surprised when I was told that we should never write these types of thing in case the student goes to the student newspaper or claims discrimination. It was all I could to keep myself from laughing. I saw it as being concerned, blunt and having expectations for appropriate classroom decorum. In any event, it just reminded me of how many people (students and those who are the pc police) have this sense of entitlement. Perhaps it belongs to one generation, perhaps not...but there are a lot of people who think they are entitled to anything and everything...quite unfortunate really...

BTW, the girl ended up shaping up her attitude and apologized. It was only the "establishment" that was worried I had addressed the issue with the disrespectful student! An institution that doesn't back you feeds directly into disrespectful students, IMO.

Cheers!

Doug

MySimplePlan · Sep 24, 2006

Wow - I'd like to see some of those people try that stuff in our nursing class....our instructor would make short work of them. I can't imagine the fellows in class using the language I'm reading in some of these posts in front of us - they have manners galore. I guess we just lucked out.

I was getting annoyed at the packing up books and jangling keys near the end of lecture period, which seems rude to me, but now I'll just appreciate the fine people, of all ages, that are in my class.

RebeccaJeanRN · Sep 24, 2006

The rudeness that I witnessed throughout my nursing classes astounded me. People were constantly negative with feedback, slammed books and such in protest if the instructors went a minute over time, wore tops with boobs and fat bellies hanging out, no matter how often they were reminded about dress code, and so on...the attitude was 'they work for us, we're paying their salaries!'. This may be true, but considering how underpaid teaching is, I found the whole attitude amazing and another symptom of the entitlement attitude of the current age (same attitude that has a few patients treating nurses like personal servants in the hospital). But of course, its not just nursing school...a mid-age man slammed a door from a store in my face just the other day as I was leaving with my arms full- and he just tried to pretend that he didn't notice someone behind him when I know he saw me just a few moments before, just because he didn't feel like giving up a few seconds to be kind. Rudeness is just a sign of the times- so I say 'kudos' to that professor who threw down the student's phone- bet we see him soon on The Today Show, with everyone (but the university) praising him for refusing to take the "cell phone rudeness thing" any longer!

charebec65 · Sep 24, 2006

If parents and teachers were allowed to get back to the basics of child-rearing and teaching without fear of being reported to DEFACS or being sued by the same parents who fear retribution by their own kids, we wouldn't be having this problem today.
Back during the 80's when my son was growing up, he knew better than to act up in school. He not only knew that his teachers had my written blessings to kick his butt prn, but also that he would get it kicked again, when he got home!
No discipline = no respect for others.

Well put CseMgr1

akspudus · Sep 25, 2006

I once went to a class where the instructor put a bucket of water near the door. If your phone rang....you could either go out the door to answer it....or drop it in the bucket. The only catch was the door was locked. If you went outside....you were not allowed to come back into class.

Cell phones have become my own "pet peeve". I take the responsibility to turn mine over to vibrate....and don't answer it in class. My wife has instructions to test me if there is an emergency..at least I can read it without disturbing my class mates.

As for other rude behavior...

The other day my chemistry professor overheard a student calling him "a rude bastard" as he walked into the classroom. He had a bundle of papers under his arm. As he reached his podium he announced that our take home test would be an in class test. He didn't actually point out the student, but he told the class what he over heard. He figured that since he was being labeled a "rude bastard" he might as well act like one. There was a handful of people that heard the students remark....and well....to make a long story short....the class sort of kicked her out.

WE are in class to learn...and the professors are the people we are learning from. That demands a certain amount of respect for them.

If any of my classmates went to a military school they wouldn't make it through the first day.

I have been promised by my advisor that the class environment gets better the farther you get along in your studies. The students lacking "class/work ethic" get weeded out.

OK stepping down from the soap box.

akspudus

Miami Dade College