Disrespectful to instructor....

NCVegRN · Sep 20, 2006

I'm in my early 30's, so maybe it's just the perspective of age, but I know exactly what you are talking about. There was one girl in most of my classes that got away with the most rude and disruptive comments and attitudes. I cannot believe she graduated and is going to be a nurse. And I can't believe every instructor put up with it. I am not sure what the answer is, just thought I'd say it isn't you. :nuke:

allnurses Guide · Sep 20, 2006

I think times have changed . . . and it is sad.

People are more disrespectful. You see it in grocery stores, department stores, hospitals and classrooms.

So, I agree with you and have personally seen teachers treated very rudely.

steph

JoeyDog · Sep 20, 2006

I am in 23 and I know what you are talking about. I don't think it is an age perspective thing. I think there are just rude people out there who don't care if they offend other people.

I had one person in a class who was out right rude. She was my age and she would send text messages on her phone during class. Totally ignore lecture, only pipe up when the professor said something obviously wrong, and put down other students who seemed to want to learn the material (at least more than she did) when they asked silly (I don't like to say dumb) questions. And she would complain to everyone about how hard the tests were...go figure. I think that some people have the attitude of "I pay to be here" ect. Anyway I think it is most likely a indvidual personality thing rather than a cultural shift in the classrooms.

LMRN10 · Sep 20, 2006

I have to agree. Maybe it's my age...I am 30. So, maybe things have actually changed or maybe I'm just older and notice it more, not sure. I cannot stand when people are disrespectful. I think what bothers me more is when the instructors don't say anything about it because that is when it continues. I feel bad for them too. People can just be down-right rude!! :rolleyes:

KungFuFtr · Sep 20, 2006

Yes, i've noticed it to.

My pet peeves:

*Cell phones ringing in class. Someone in my past CNA class actually answered their phone during class before.

*Crosstalk. People that talk to each other while the teacher is lecturing.

*Students who try to teach the class, or interupt the lecture to tell their life's story. :banghead:

MB37 · Sep 20, 2006

Absolutely! In my one on-campus class, my prof spent part of the first day explaining that we were not required to attend class. She asked us specifically not to have our phones go off in class, and not to talk to our neighbors but to pass a note if we needed to ask them something. Once a day, someone's phone rings. At least 5 times per class she stops mid-lecture to ask people "if they have a question" - polite way of saying shut up, I'm trying to get through the material. Now she has reposted her guidelines on the course website. She's getting fed up - this is her first year at my school - and so am I. I am paying to be here too, and I want to learn the material, not listen to some kids making snide comments about what someone else wore last night.

Jules A, MSN · Sep 20, 2006

I think it has a lot to do with our "politically correct" society where suing someone is the answer to everything. Schools do not want any controversy. There were students at my school that were rude, fairly incompetent and yet it was as if the instructors were afraid to say anything to them. I just don't get it, years ago (dating myself, lol) cheating was not tolerated, you were expelled, no questions asked. Now it would take 6 months and a 100 person panel to address the issue, sigh.

Corvette Guy · Sep 20, 2006

You are fortunate this Professor has patience. IMHO, it has to do with the Gen Y mentality of me-me-me. Plus, sounds like this rude student you mentioned is very insecure.

Good luck!

llg, PhD, RN · Sep 20, 2006

It's another reason why there is a shortage of instructors.

I taught in a basic BSN program a few years ago and hated it. The students weren't rude, but they were woefully unprepared for class -- didn't do the reading, etc. Then they complained whenever they got a bad grade. What bothered me most was that we were not allowed to give them bad grades. We were told to give the "extra credit" assignments to get the points they needed to pass. The pressure was on for us to pass them regardless of their performance. I quit.

I have just started teaching an online course this fall for RN-BSN students. While some of them don't want to have to work to earn a grade, most are polite and doing a fine job -- and I'm teaching for a school that will let me give bad grades to those who deserve them.

I feel better about teaching those who are already RN's. At least I know they have the knowledge and skills to be competent nurses. I am trying to help them learn and grow and at least some of them seem to appreciate that. Of course I have a few who don't. But as I said, they will all get the grades they earn -- and rudeness is not the norm.

llg

llg, PhD, RN · Sep 20, 2006

...and on a related topic ...

Those same students who are rude to instructors and also disrecpectful of their colleagues, preceptors, and managers after graduation. My full time job is in staff development. The behavior we see in orientation (and inservices) is atrocious. If the instructor says anything, then they complain to their managers who blames us for not supporting their efforts to make these folks happy so that they will stay. The management does not back us up with consequences for poor behavior in class. They just want the holes on their schedule filled.

llg

Momto3andNurse2B · Sep 20, 2006

On the bright side, you'll probably never have to work with this woman as a nurse, because if she tries that in nursing school (at least in my school), she'll never make it!