dougRN2BE

It took me several weeks, but I understand the difference between the two ages. Like you mentioned, the website lists it as "post-conception", which led me to think that perhaps I hadn't mastered it quite yet. LOL. All is good, I think. It is all a bit confusing. Thanks, Gompers!! :)

Also, Crown Rump Length was 79mm at the time of the ultrasound, which calculated on the printout to a gestational age of 13w4d. So, when people are saying that you can perhaps tell gender at 13 weeks, is it 13 weeks gestational age or age of the fetus? Again, still skeptical! :) Doug

interesting that you mention this, since the baby would have only been 10 weeks 4 days at the time of the ultrasound. mom was in her 13th week (12w4d), but baby is 2 weeks behind. when i look at the 10 week slide, it says that the baby's pelvic region is still developing. this raises the question...are we talking about 12 weeks of pregnancy, or 12 weeks post conception...she isn't 12 weeks post conception yet. and as i said, at the time of the u/s the baby would only have been 10w4d old. does this change anyone's pov?

Thanks for everyone's input. I tend to agree with most everyone that it is too early... She said that "they don't detect gender ever on a 3D ultrasound", rather depending on the 2D black-white ultrasound to see the gender. I don't know how accurate her assessment of detecting gender and 3D u/s is, but that's what she said. We'll wait and see at 20 weeks and I'll report back. And who knows...perhaps it will even be a surprise at delivery. So much fun in waiting for the baby to arrrive! :) Thanks again everyone! And feel free to keep piping in if you have something to say. I appreciate it. Cheers, Doug

Yeah, I don't think we are going to paint anything yet or buy boy's clothes. I was a bit surprised that sonographers in CA don't have to be licensed, but I guess it is the experience and training that matters. We will have another US at 20 weeks from our HMO with a licensed sonographer who supposedly has a lot of experience and I'm curious to see what his assessment is. We'll see. But like you said, you never know for sure until the little bundle of joy pops out. Imagine days without ultrasounds and the internet and all of our fancy gadgets. A lot SIMPLER!!! :) Cheers to all, Doug

Thanks everyone and thanks for the warm wishes, Tazzi! Mom got to pick the boy's name. It will be Miles Aiden. :) We're super excited. Cheers, Doug

I posted this in the OB forum, but for good reason (at least I think) am posting it in the general forum. Hopefully the OB folks will be able to give some technical experience and you all in the general forum might have had experiences as parents in recent years with this topic. I'd appreciate any feedback you have. ________________________________________________________________ Hello Everyone, My dear wife is pregnant and she went in for an ultrasound at 12 weeks to see the baby in 3D (a wonderful experience) and it was not with a licensed sonographer, although she claimed to have years of experience. In any event, she claimed to be able to detect male parts and declared that it was 85-90% certain that we were having a boy. Now, we are completely fine with a boy or a girl (we just want our little bundle of joy to be healthy on arrival), but I am a bit skeptical that she was able to determine the sex at 12 weeks. It seems a bit early to me and I am wondering if any of you have experience with this and might be able to shed some light onto whether 1) it is quite feasible that she did see testicles/scrotum and her assertion holds water, 2) perhaps she did see male parts, but it is too early and her prediction of gender is not as solid as she stated, 3) it is too early to tell, period! or 4) whatever you want to say! :) Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Doug

Hello Everyone, My dear wife is pregnant and she went in for an ultrasound at 12 weeks to see the baby in 3D (a wonderful experience) and it was not with a licensed sonographer, although she claimed to have years of experience. In any event, she claimed to be able to detect male parts and declared that it was 85-90% certain that we were having a boy. Now, we are completely fine with a boy or a girl (we just want our little bundle of joy to be healthy on arrival), but I am a bit skeptical that she was able to determine the sex at 12 weeks. It seems a bit early to me and I am wondering if any of you have experience with this and might be able to shed some light onto whether 1) it is quite feasible that she did see testicles/scrotum and her assertion holds water, 2) perhaps she did see male parts, but it is too early and her prediction of gender is not as solid as she stated, 3) it is too early to tell, period! or 4) whatever you want to say! :) Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Doug

Well, depending on if money is a factor for you or not, you might consider University of Rochester. Downside: 45K in tuition Upsides: only 5 pre-reqs and they transfer in 70ish credits from your previous degree and you are done with a BSN in one year. Might make sense when you run the cost-benefit analysis of being in school and not working as opposed to paying a high amount in tuition now, but getting into the workforce sooner. They are also very competitive GPA wise, so that might be another factor. Cheers, Doug

Thanks for your understanding, Leslie. I genuinely appreciate it. In kind, I apologize for assuming what you meant without probing further. The point made by you and the mod are valid and I see your perspective. My fingers got ahead of my sensibilities. :icon_hug:

Why are we justifying the illegal use of drugs? Cigarettes and alcohol (when consumed in accordance with statutes) are legal. Ecstacy is not...It's illegal, shows very poor professional judgement and there needs to be some sort or an intervention. Sounds like the OP tried, but to no avail. I don't understand this "understanding" attitude for their situation and for their debts and time in school. Accountability, folks!

We shouldn't assume that because someone has a difference of interpretation or opinion that it is a result of not reading the post. I acknowledge your points and see validity in them. I'll bow out of the conversation so as not to derail the thread. Cheers, Doug

WOW! Imagine this in the business world. "I'm sorry ma'am, but female managers at our company are going to encounter various barriers at various times. Don't take it personally." The lawyers would be writing briefs before you could blink your eyes. Quite a double standard this is. Unfortunate, really. This comment is, in my opinion, sexist and sad. It wouldn't fly in any other industry and I assume that most nurses would denounce such a statement. :uhoh21:

:yeahthat: Lots of people, regardless of the profession, are trying to assert dominance over others...try not to let it bother you becaue we all have unique and special tasks in this world and quite frankly, we wouldn't enjoy the kind of lives we do if we didn't have so many diverse fields and professions.

I'm with you 100% on this one. Would I want this individual giving anesthesia to my wife, mother, brother? If your allegations are true, absolutely not. There are a lot of people that work very hard for their degrees, but that doesn't exempt them from professional conduct. If they want to do recreational drugs, fine...but perhaps a career where you aren't responsible for the lives of others might be more appropriate. The well-being of their patients is far more important than their years spent in schooing or the debt they have accrued. Not even comparable. And I asked myself how I would feel if something DID happen as a result of their recreational drug use...I would feel absolutely horrible and a bit responsible. In my opinion, putting one's head in the sand and not reporting these types of things (either to the employer or the BON) is irresponsible.