Diploma and Associate Degree in Nursing

[LasercopyNurse]

The new nursing standard favors ADN over diploma for recruitment by hospitals for their professionalism skill/knowledge to reach higher patient care quality.

The questions will be about the difference between these degrees in term 

1. The requirement to get admission for such a program 
2. Credits hours to finish / Time 
3. Competency 

or Additional info would be appreciated.

From gathered data from multiple articles and summarized briefly 

The requirement for the Diploma admission is the completion of secondary education 

It takes three years to attend hospital classes 

Competency would be nursing assistance  

The other discussion would be about the difference and opinions about both degrees.

Should we remove diplomas from nursing programs? Why? 

My opinion would be ( Personally ) to remove diploma degree and encourage students to aim for ADN instead of diploma to be more competent and educated. The rationale to get better patient care as the average intelligence of nurses would be higher. 

Thanks in advance for your time. 

[iNurs5, CNA]

31 minutes ago, LasercopyNurse said:

Well, that is an interesting fact you shared about the diploma program

mind if I ask a little more? 

If the diploma course is three years, how long does it take to finish BSN?

Does the diploma get intensive care preparation, leadership and management, and Informatics, or are those exclusive to the BSN?

I thought you were a nurse. You should know this part. 

31 minutes ago, LasercopyNurse said:

If the diploma course is three years, how long does it take to finish BSN?

For some uni, it takes as long as 12, 15, or 16 months to obtain a BSN. 
https://www.unlv.edu/degree/bs-nursing    The clinicals are quite the same. 

For the ADN and BSN programs, the nursing cores are quite the same. Nursing informatics is a specialized degree after you obtain a BSN-RN. Those you’ve listed are also in the ADN program. All nurses utilize informatics.

 

...You're interesting. 

[iNurs5, CNA]

1 hour ago, LasercopyNurse said:

Did you experience stress handling those courses within the time of DIploma courses?

Never encountered problems. 

[iNurs5, CNA]

1 hour ago, LasercopyNurse said:

college two extra years for BSN which get nurses more preparation in knowledge.

Frankly, the ADN-Nurses, many of them obtain their BSN. You're late to their party.  

I need to enhance my reading comprehension. See you later. 

[iNurs5, CNA]

4 hours ago, LasercopyNurse said:

Like you will find many brilliant nurses who are diploma holders but with good potential, why not encourage them to utilize such potential

I've never claimed to be a nurse. I'm a student nurse. I have 156 credit units. These weren't from the nursing degree. Many of my courses satisfied the BSN's general education to schools I applied to. 

I'm not making excuses for them, but I'm sure that it has something to do with time, finances, and other factors.

[Jedrnurse, BSN, RN]

6 hours ago, Honyebee said:

I would do it. For the education, you'll have to cover my $50,000 expenses, and I'll work less hours. I promise I'll study and pass everything. 


 

I grant you the "Worthy of a T-shirt Slogan" of the week award!!?

[Wuzzie]

10 hours ago, LasercopyNurse said:

Well, that is an interesting fact you shared about the diploma program

mind if I ask a little more? 

If the diploma course is three years, how long does it take to finish BSN?

Does the diploma get intensive care preparation, leadership and management, and Informatics, or are those exclusive to the BSN?

4 years but I DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT AT THE TIME!  

Of course it did. It’s freaking required by the board of nursing.  The major difference in a BSN is one year of prerequisites…like Literature or World Studies. 

Really wish this thread would get shut down. 

[toughcookie, ADN, BSN]

In my area I do not think they have diploma requirements, just ADN, BSN, and LPN programs. Hospitals want magnet status so they want BSN nurses but it also depends on the area. I first got my ADN then my BSN. I do not think the BSN helped my critical thinking in any way. Just busy work filled with discussions and papers. I got critical thinking overtime with experience in the field. The few areas that still offer diplomas will eventually get fazed out I believe. I had a few nursing instructors that first got diplomas but they were in their 60's so when they received them diplomas were popular and easy to get.

[Wuzzie]

51 minutes ago, toughcookie said:

I had a few nursing instructors that first got diplomas but they were in their 60's so when they received them diplomas were popular and easy to get.

Ummmm. No they weren’t. 
 

Do you people even think before you post? 

[toughcookie, ADN, BSN]

34 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

Ummmm. No they weren’t. 
 

Do you people even think before you post? 

I'm saying the nursing instructors were in their 60's when I was in school meaning they are seasoned nurses (40+ years of nursing experience). I've been around a variety of nurses that started out with their diploma instead of ADN. I shouldn't have said it was "easy" to get but they were more popular back then than now. 

[Jedrnurse, BSN, RN]

41 minutes ago, toughcookie said:

I'm saying the nursing instructors were in their 60's when I was in school meaning they are seasoned nurses (40+ years of nursing experience). I've been around a variety of nurses that started out with their diploma instead of ADN. I shouldn't have said it was "easy" to get but they were more popular back then than now. 

So you meant the diploma programs were more available, not that the diplomas themselves were easy to get? Good, because those programs didn't play. If you dropped the ball you were OUT...

[Wuzzie]

39 minutes ago, Jedrnurse said:

I shouldn't have said it was "easy" to get but they were more popular back then than now. 

That’s because back then there weren’t many BSN programs and the ADN didn’t exist. 

[londonflo]

9 hours ago, LasercopyNurse said:

ADN = 2.5 years ( 5 semesters ) 77 credit hours

BSN = 4 years    ( 8 semesters ) 121 credit hours 

An ADN  program should be closer to 60 credits, sometimes a few more for the CNA prep. . Some programs do pad the extra 17 credits for more tuition $$.