Demand for Nurses Abroad

allnurses Guide · Aug 5, 2008

Moved to the international forums for a more appropriate response.

As far as demand, if you read many of the posts and stickies in the international forums I think your question will be answered.

I only have expereince in the UK and can say without hesitation that there is no demand for overseas nurses, we don't have enough jobs for our own trained nurses and we must give priority to those we have trained in the UK. Many of our student nurses will qualify with the prospect of no job, these have to be given UK jobs first.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Aug 5, 2008

There is a demand for nurses in Canada however you have to meet their requirements, pass their local boards, pass your local boards and for some countries have to complete a bridging program. The bridging program is decided on an individual basis by the province so no good asking which province is better than others. Australia and New Zealand also has a demand for nurses but again you may have to complete a bridging program before a license is issued by the state and again each state will make it's own mind up depending on your transcripts and working experience. Japan, I thought you couldn't nurse in Japan without sitting their exam and you can't if a foreigner or trained outside of Japan.

Although demand may be there it is your responsibility to ensure you know and meet the requirements of the country, preference should and usually is given to own citizens first. You may have a better chance if gain experience and even specialise in an area however not all course will be recognised by the country in question you are looking to move to

suzanne4, RN · Aug 5, 2008

Japan does not even permit a Japanese national that trained in another country to get licensed there, so they most definitely are not going to permit a foreigner to get licensed there. The jobs that have been available there are as a care-provider only; not as an RN.

There actually has been steady increases in enrollment in the Philippines in nursing programs, it has not gone down at all. But with no jobs available and the requirement of having taken and passed the NLE for most other countries, chances of getting a job in another country are getting slimmer and slimmer. And the requirements for the other countries are getting tighter and tighter.

Fiona59 · Aug 5, 2008

I'm going to be unpopular for saying this but if the recent new arrivals from the Phillipines are good indicators of the quality of nurses currently being produced there, I can honestly say, our health authority will look elsewhere. For experienced hospital nurses, their skill set needs a great deal of remedial attention.

The nurses coming form New Zealand and Australia are a totally different kind of nurse and we have nothing but praise for them.

This isn't a race/colour issue because many of the nurses from Oz and NZ are of Asian or other backgrounds.

It's a matter of education and skills.

audkate · Aug 6, 2008

Thank you for being very honest, what you have said about filipino nurses will definitely serve as a challenge for them to further enhance their competencies before even thinking of working abroad. This input will also help nurse educators to look into the existing nursing program.

kempo · Aug 6, 2008

I'm going to be unpopular for saying this but if the recent new arrivals from the Phillipines are good indicators of the quality of nurses currently being produced there, I can honestly say, our health authority will look elsewhere. For experienced hospital nurses, their skill set needs a great deal of remedial attention.
The nurses coming form New Zealand and Australia are a totally different kind of nurse and we have nothing but praise for them.
This isn't a race/colour issue because many of the nurses from Oz and NZ are of Asian or other backgrounds.
It's a matter of education and skills.

you might be a very good nurse or whatever you are in your profession but if you have no good things to say in a forum like this, better say nothing or just post what is relevant to the topic of the thread. I am a nurse and a Filipino, if by chance we meet, I will be very glad to work with you and see how good you are.

Where ever you come from, I'm pretty sure there are many Filipino nurses that are much better than you, and for sure there are also many who are at par or at sub par of how good you are.

Fiona59 · Aug 6, 2008

So, my health authority should be expected to pay for remedial eduation for professional nurses who have limited skills? Who when faced with the day to day reality of working in North America flat out state that the skills we take for granted were performed by the doctors back home?

That we should have to have nurses with work experience tell us that they have never inserted an NG or a foley? Removed sutures or staples? Have performed routine vitals and assessments? Have a hard time managing total patient care on more than two patients when the existing staff are expected to carry a five patient load?

I have never claimed to be a great nurse. My patients do that in the letters they send my unit manager after being discharged home. I've also had patients that you couldn't please for trying your damnest.

What I am saying is that the greatest level of arrogance about being the best nurses in the world appeared on this forum earlier this year by numerous nurses in the Phillipines seeking employment in Canada when they were no longer able to obtain working visas for the US.

Canada is an independent nation made up of people from around the world who chosen to live here for the most part. We don't take kindly as being used as a stepping stone to enter the US.

The truth hurts and I tend to speak the truth.

2BANURZSXPENSIV · Aug 6, 2008

Japan does not even permit a Japanese national that trained in another country to get licensed there, so they most definitely are not going to permit a foreigner to get licensed there. The jobs that have been available there are as a care-provider only; not as an RN.
There actually has been steady increases in enrollment in the Philippines in nursing programs, it has not gone down at all. But with no jobs available and the requirement of having taken and passed the NLE for most other countries, chances of getting a job in another country are getting slimmer and slimmer. And the requirements for the other countries are getting tighter and tighter.

Yes I agree with that, I can feel it too, I guess it's because of the media, I haven't known the real scenario of nursing abroad, until I found these forum, this website..... Its because of the news that we Filipinos keep hoping that finishing a nursing course is enough, but its not, theres a lot to go through.... But it is also through these forums that I was able to decide what I will do...with my career as a nurse.. And I want to thank everyone for that... Off to CANADA....heheheheheheh ......how I wish... :nurse:

gemini_star, BSN, RN · Aug 6, 2008

Thank you very much Fiona for speaking of the truth. It only made clearer to my fellow Filipinos that the nurses graduated from the nursing schools now are not at par with the skilled nurses in 1990s. As I belong to the current registered nurse here, I can attest to that. Our skills and foundation are poor. It would take time to hone the skills and more practice.

I am also fed up with the notion "Filipino nurses are great; they are known with their skills... blah blah" Those captions came from the old days. Not anymore applicable to the current scenario.

So, my health authority should be expected to pay for remedial eduation for professional nurses who have limited skills? Who when faced with the day to day reality of working in North America flat out state that the skills we take for granted were performed by the doctors back home?
That we should have to have nurses with work experience tell us that they have never inserted an NG or a foley? Removed sutures or staples? Have performed routine vitals and assessments? Have a hard time managing total patient care on more than two patients when the existing staff are expected to carry a five patient load?
I have never claimed to be a great nurse. My patients do that in the letters they send my unit manager after being discharged home. I've also had patients that you couldn't please for trying your damnest.
What I am saying is that the greatest level of arrogance about being the best nurses in the world appeared on this forum earlier this year by numerous nurses in the Phillipines seeking employment in Canada when they were no longer able to obtain working visas for the US.
Canada is an independent nation made up of people from around the world who chosen to live here for the most part. We don't take kindly as being used as a stepping stone to enter the US.
The truth hurts and I tend to speak the truth.

2BANURZSXPENSIV · Aug 6, 2008

I'm going to be unpopular for saying this but if the recent new arrivals from the Phillipines are good indicators of the quality of nurses currently being produced there, I can honestly say, our health authority will look elsewhere. For experienced hospital nurses, their skill set needs a great deal of remedial attention.
The nurses coming form New Zealand and Australia are a totally different kind of nurse and we have nothing but praise for them.
This isn't a race/colour issue because many of the nurses from Oz and NZ are of Asian or other backgrounds.
It's a matter of education and skills.

Practice makes perfect you know, its not all that, but if a person is motivated and willing to learn, let me remind you, the nurses you were comparing to Philippine nurses are nurses from the FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES,... and they have been educated through complete facilities and proper training. We, Filipino nurses we are from a third world country, and with facilities,.... you are way ahead of us.... I think you need to at least give our nurses a break from all these observations... If these nurses pass your CRNE.... it's one way of proving that they are eligible to work... And if given the chance to perform and use the new and high tech facilities and equipments you have.... and the near time they will become efficient and proficient with it.... You must be very lucky you are a high standard nurse... excuse me if I'm offensive ("IF");at least give us the credit that we are trying hard to become like you...At least we are trying hard to improve... Instead we look down on others, we look up to reach the people we admire to be.. and those are CANDIAN, NZ, AU, US Nurses like you... :saint:

2BANURZSXPENSIV · Aug 6, 2008

So, my health authority should be expected to pay for remedial eduation for professional nurses who have limited skills? Who when faced with the day to day reality of working in North America flat out state that the skills we take for granted were performed by the doctors back home?
That we should have to have nurses with work experience tell us that they have never inserted an NG or a foley? Removed sutures or staples? Have performed routine vitals and assessments? Have a hard time managing total patient care on more than two patients when the existing staff are expected to carry a five patient load?
I have never claimed to be a great nurse. My patients do that in the letters they send my unit manager after being discharged home. I've also had patients that you couldn't please for trying your damnest.
What I am saying is that the greatest level of arrogance about being the best nurses in the world appeared on this forum earlier this year by numerous nurses in the Phillipines seeking employment in Canada when they were no longer able to obtain working visas for the US.
Canada is an independent nation made up of people from around the world who chosen to live here for the most part. We don't take kindly as being used as a stepping stone to enter the US.
The truth hurts and I tend to speak the truth.

Yeah right... whatever... :yawn:

so whats your purpose exactly?