This is from their FAQ page. Who exactly prohibited them from informing the enrolled and potential students?
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Lehman College has an obligation to inform students in the MS-FNP program and applicants to the program of the adverse action made on Nov. 20, 2020, which it did on Nov. 21, 2020. Because Lehman College appealed the CCNE Board’s June 2020 decision to deny accreditation, the Board’s June 2020 action remained confidential. Lehman was prohibited from sharing this information with students at that time.
Their website is really poor for searching for completion rates for their BSN program. I never did find them. I question is if there is any transparency there. I am so sorry that their deception (and that's what I think it was) caused a loss of tuition money and TIME to the FNP students. Money can be recouped but the time is gone. Are they going to continue to accept students for the FNP program?
They said they were prohibited, but the CCNE policy states they don’t have to disclose to the public or students until they get a denial. I am thinking it is a matter of semantics and they want to justify keeping this from us. While the CCNE states schools don’t have to disclose, their policy also doesn’t state they prohibit schools from disclosing. It’s all very sad. I even looked up USDE policies and I never knew the level of deception I feel this whole system is based on. See for yourselves.
The benchmark for taking the test has to be at an 80 percent. Back in 2017 the Ancc put them on a corrective action plan and while the percentage went up to a 78, it’s still not an 80 so in June 2020 the school lost accreditation.
The bigger issue is that none of this was communicated to the students or the public, or we would have chosen a different school. Apparently, the CCNE’s policies dictate that a school does not have to disclose anything to the public or their students other than a denial, which happened in June of 2020, except the school STILL didn’t tell us because they were seeking an appeal. In other words, while there were issues since 2017, the only governing body dictates that schools don’t have to notify until they reach a denial which was in June 2020. We only found out because a graduate of the May 2020 cohort who attempted to sit for the boards was rejected so she reached out to a friend of hers in my cohort who notified the rest of us, that was around 11-13. On 11.20 when they went to the appeal hearing, the denial was upheld and they notified us the following day.
Now while 99 percent of the degree was done while the school was accredited, the fact remains that we will graduate in 2 weeks from a program that lost accreditation, effectively banning us from sitting for our boards, ever. What we are asking is if the accreditation loss date can be delayed for a month to allow at least our cohort to sit for the exam. Transferring is a horrible option, as only up to 12 credits will be accepted out of the 45 we have, and we will have to redo our 500+ hours of clinicals.
This is just so insane, I have no words! If other students did poorly last year and you did not, why should you be punished? Yes, the school should have told you way earlier than June, but about the first time they were at that 78! They should allow you to sit for the exam, I am sure you will pass it!
My understanding of accreditation (although not specifically familiar with CCNE) is that if the program is accredited when you start then you are considered to have graduated from an accredited program and are eligible to sit for exam. Not sure why this wouldn’t be the case.
Hey Momma23 that is incorrect. If graduate from an accredited program, you can sit for the exam. But if you graduate from a non accredited program, you can never sit for the Ancc.
I am glad to report that 2 days ago, the CCNE announced that they would extend accreditation until March, to allow those of us scheduled to graduate this month to do so from an accredited program. However, I still feel for the cohort behind us who were scheduled to graduate in May 2021. They will graduate from a non accredited program if they choose to stay and will never be able to sit for Ancc.
Hey Momma23 that is incorrect. If graduate from an accredited program, you can sit for the exam. But if you graduate from a non accredited program, you can never sit for the Ancc.
I am glad to report that 2 days ago, the CCNE announced that they would extend accreditation until March, to allow those of us scheduled to graduate this month to do so from an accredited program. However, I still feel for the cohort behind us who were scheduled to graduate in May 2021. They will graduate from a non accredited program if they choose to stay and will never be able to sit for Ancc.
Glad you have a positive outcome and good luck! Yes, it sucks for the class behind you but if your cohort does good maybe it will extend the accreditation, or in some way, save the following cohort.
Imagine you are 3 weeks shy of graduation and found that your school loses accreditation, effectively making you ineligible to sit for boards.
I'm so sorry this happened. From your perspective, you believe that only this last bit of your education should be discounted. However, it seems like your entire education has been subpar. You went to a school that, at least on paper, improperly prepared students to become safe nurses. I would honestly be scared to practice as a nurse. I would try to petition the board to offer a transitioning course that could possibly catch your class up on the things your school failed to train you all on!
Thanks MaybeNia, I should edit the post to reflect that we did get the extension after all, at least for my cohort, so we do get to sit for the boards after all. Whether or not the program was subpar was a moot point because none of that was made public, so students enrolling in the school had no idea they were paying into a system that may lose accreditation.
Also, the program was for FNP, and the issue was that while the school was able to increase their average to a 78, ANCC requires an 80 average. If my cohort is able to pass with flying colors, hopefully the school can reapply for reaccreditation.
I'm so sorry this happened. From your perspective, you believe that only this last bit of your education should be discounted. However, it seems like your entire education has been subpar. You went to a school that, at least on paper, improperly prepared students to become safe nurses. I would honestly be scared to practice as a nurse. I would try to petition the board to offer a transitioning course that could possibly catch your class up on the things your school failed to train you all on!
I am not a part of this and have no personal interest here, however, I 100% disagree with you. The program lost its accreditation because the students scored 78 instead of an 80. Remember, some students must have also scored a lot higher. This is a very decent school and this accreditation was cruelly taken away. I agree that the school should be have been transparent and that they have to come up with something to get these students to sit for the boards. These students did not get a subpar education! Remember, we are talking about people who are already RN's and who earned their master degree. Remember that the school lost accreditation for 2 points! They got a totally fine education and they should not be afraid to practice as NP's. I BET they would do just fine if they sat for the boards. They already completed their clinical hours.
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This is from their FAQ page. Who exactly prohibited them from informing the enrolled and potential students?
Their website is really poor for searching for completion rates for their BSN program. I never did find them. I question is if there is any transparency there. I am so sorry that their deception (and that's what I think it was) caused a loss of tuition money and TIME to the FNP students. Money can be recouped but the time is gone. Are they going to continue to accept students for the FNP program?