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Dear Nursing Instructor,
I want to remind you that at some point in your life you were in my shoes. Remember your first day of class? You were nervous, scared, and maybe wondering "Am I really made for nursing?"
You were handed a syllabus, and quickly went to work planning your schedule for the days to come. The thought of all the chapters you need to read, and understand. "How am I going to process all of this," you thought?
Maybe nursing was a breeze for you. Maybe you failed out and had to give it another try. A year or two later there you are walking across the stage in your nursing uniform holding your candle in remembrance of the mother of nursing Florence Nightingale. Remember how excited you were to get pinned. Oh the tears of joys that you finally made it!
Years have now passed by, and you have decided to become a nurse educator. However you forgot some things. What it is like to be a student. Some students are new to the health field; others are here looking for a second career, or a better life for their family. We all come from different walks of life.
Yes we know and may have heard all the horror stories of nursing. Does nursing school really have to be a horror story? Do you have to yell at your new nursing students on the first day? Is it appropriate to tell your students your not cut out for this? Do you as an instructor have to meet a quota every semester on who you can weed out?
I am a student here to learn. Yes, sometimes some students make it all the way through there preq's thinking "I can fly straight through nursing with no problem." However, some of us are not like that. We want to learn! We want what you have: a state board license!
We have sacrificed our lives and loved ones just to make it to the end of the program. However, some of us don't make it through the first few semesters. As students we do take the blame for our faults and short comings. I know I do. However being manipulated, taunted, yelled at, curse at, and treated like a nobody is not what I signed up for.
Let me give you an example of what some instructors have done in my presence. I had a class mate whose period came on during our lab at the school. We are told that while we are in clinical lab we are not allowed to go to the bathroom, only when we are given break.
She fell ill and told the instructors what was going on. In her defense, she has periods that come when they want, 2 times a month maybe once every 3 months. Nevertheless, she informed said professors on what was going, and got permission to leave the class. She had a mess on her clothes which caused her to leave the class for a second time in 30 mins. She was withdrawn by the Dean because she should have had a Dr.'s note.
I had a similar situation. I heavy a menstruation (due to Essure) sometimes as well, and in my first semester I had an accident as well my clothes. I had to sit for 30 minutes thank goodness before I could leave. All because of that stupid rule. I was embarrassed some, but hey we're all nursing students right. Thank God I lived 5 mins away from school.
My point is: is it really that serious not to have your class interrupted because of an emergency? If that is not an excuse. Please be sympathetic towards your students if deemed necessary, ie. student who found out her father had a heart attack, and is at the hospital fighting for his life. You have now put this student in the position to choose her class time and not risk being dropped from her class, or her dying father. Did you have any unusual emergencies as a student?
As a student we are held responsible for actions. We look to you for guidance and a great learning experience. Why are you so mean? Do you have to eat your young?
Now, now, I'm going to get a lot of comments on how nursing is to be taken seriously. "We have patient lives in our hands". I get that. I have 7 years of healthcare background in a very busy trauma one hospital. I know how stressful nursing can get and how overworked some nurses are, but I'm talking about teaching here. Teaching does not have to be so cruel and intimidating. I'm not saying you have to hold our hands and talk softly, and give us a high five for remembering small or big details. Treat me like a student who wants to learn what you are willing to give.
I just want you ask my instructor, the one I look to for educational needs, to remember what it was like when you were in our shoes.
Respectfully Submitted,
Fearless_Leader
P.S. For the Instructors who do care for their students, and do want them to succeed, we appreciate all you do.
Dear Nursing Instructors Who Think You Are Doing Nursing Students A Favor By "Making Them Grow Thick Skin":
Please find and post a peer-reviewed, evidence-based practice article from a nursing or medical journal that provides proof that the following behaviors are beneficial in the long run to future nurses:
Raising your voice to students
Impatiently grilling them
Instilling fear towards asking questions (even if it is multiple times)
Passively or aggressively humiliating or belittling them in front of nurses or other students
On the contrary, your search will most likely indicate how you are contributing to attrition, trickling down to potential errors and patient safety issues.
To the current nurses who say "We are getting you ready for the real thing" and "Time to toughen up!" Why are you encouraging/tolerating this behavior in your institution? In medicine, doctors are being taught about the dangers of this. Accrediting agencies have recognized the harm in this. Why can't you?
Nursing instructors should be making it clear that you can ask questions, taking the time to talk to students, making sure they understand. Respect should be given for adults on both sides. Many nurses who are their future co-workers will not be tolerant, so school should be the place to figure out how to handle that when it happens-not with the goal of starting you off in the profession this way.
I will 2nd Julie Reyes comments above.
Signed,
rbs105
BSN Nursing Instructor
Speaking as a current nursing student, we kind of contribute to making Instructors feel this anger and impatience towards us, why you ask?
Example, my class today:
1. Class starts at 9.
0900- 8/55 of us are there, seated and ready to go.
0901-1015- 43 trickle in, coffee in hand, tape recorders placed, making noise, batteries going off, digging in their bags, one standing in front of the instructor (like directly in front of him) scanning the room for a seat)
1030- let's ask questions about slides from the beginning, bc you weren't here in the beginning to ask them.
Example 2
Assignments are posted
Ya....no I saw them on the portal, but I didn't have time to write my paper, I was too stressed studying for this next test. So I didn't do it. I will turn it in eventually.
Example 3
I know our syllabus says white shoes, but I like these red nikes better and I know I was 45 minutes late to clinical today because of traffic, which I knew was going to happen (as we live in the city), and I could have left earlier but didn't. Because, you know, you guys can wait on me. Thanks!
I wonder! Seems pretty simple to me!
Please find and post a peer-reviewed, evidence-based practice article from a nursing or medical journal that provides proof that the following behaviors are beneficial in the long run to future nurses:Raising your voice to students
Impatiently grilling them
Instilling fear towards asking questions (even if it is multiple times)
Passively or aggressively humiliating or belittling them in front of nurses or other students
I am not a nursing instructor nor is this peer reviewed/EBP…I agree that none of these are necessary except "grilling" students. As a nurse you will be grilled several times a shift--from patients, family members, physicians, fellow nurses, the lab, yadda, yadda, yadda. There are some skills that are not on a test, but are necessary to learn…like how to handle a grilling, and it's best to learn this through an experience with one's instructor. Now, hopefully the CI will give the student real feedback after the grilling session, not just put him or her down. I have a feeling, that may not always be the case with the OP's instructors.
I am not a nursing instructor nor is this peer reviewed/EBP...I agree that none of these are necessary except "grilling" students. As a nurse you will be grilled several times a shift--from patients, family members, physicians, fellow nurses, the lab, yadda, yadda, yadda. There are some skills that are not on a test, but are necessary to learn...like how to handle a grilling, and it's best to learn this through an experience with one's instructor.
I agree completely-students will be grilled in this profession. I guess I would hope that instructors would focus on teaching them how to be grilled, letting them know that the situation is safe for them to stop and ask their instructor about how to handle a question they are unsure of. Focusing on how to critically think about a question they are being asked should be the goal of an instructor. Facts can be looked up. What we do with the facts is where the real skill comes into play and should be the where the real teaching takes place.
I would not want to be a nursing instructor. You couldn't pay me enough to put with the crap from people that mine do. The whining about who is in whose clinical group, why is one instructor harder than the other, she just doesn't like me, that's why I failed comments. I know I would be mean. I would give people a reality check on life. They shouldn't hold your hand through school. That's what elementary school is for. To me, it sucks to be you if you are late. Get an alarm and get yourself up on time. Do your assignments. I don't want to hear your excuses, any excuses, just get it done, that's why it's in the syllabus. There are people that want their hand held every step of the way. Drives me insane. I'm sorry you got your period one day. Do think the nursing instructors don't get their too? I get mine. Got mine in class one day. I sucked it up the rest of the day. I don't live anywhere close enough to go and change. So I didn't tell a soul, sucked it up until 7, and went home and took care of myself. I mean really, life is going to happen at school and on the job, you do need to get thicker skin in my opinion and suck it up and learn how to deal with stuff. I get horrible cramps and a migraine on the first day of my period also and I just dealt with it. I really didn't want to be there the rest of the day because I felt horrible, but on the job I don't think I got my period today, really counts as a call in. You can't call in every month. Also, I'm 38, pushing 40 like you, and I'm a single mom. So I hear you about having life happen. But in all reality, if you weren't ready for this, maybe you should have waited to start school. My nursing instructors are great. I have no complaints at all. I would not want to be in their shoes for all of the crap they put up with. I know of three people I would have thrown out of the program already for unprofessionalism in the classroom and at clinicals. They'd be gone. One, just for asking continual stupid questions. Actually, I'm kidding on that one. But think about this, what if you were in the OR in sterile field and you got your period. What are you going to do? You can't leave to go to the restroom, you can't go home. So what are you going to do? You are going to suck it up and help finish the surgery. The patient's life is in your hands in there. Some things you just gotta do.
Oh, and just an FYI, this is part of the reason men think they are better than women. Don't ever use that excuse around a man. He will just think you are weak and it's why you don't belong in the profession, and it will be harder to gain his respect. I don't ever do that, ever. I need to be seen as an equal, not weaker.
Edit:saw a misspelled word
Speaking as a current nursing student, we kind of contribute to making Instructors feel this anger and impatience towards us, why you ask?Example, my class today:
1. Class starts at 9.
0900- 8/55 of us are there, seated and ready to go.
0901-1015- 43 trickle in, coffee in hand, tape recorders placed, making noise, batteries going off, digging in their bags, one standing in front of the instructor (like directly in front of him) scanning the room for a seat)
1030- let's ask questions about slides from the beginning, bc you weren't here in the beginning to ask them.
Yes, this is rude, but it's your instructor's fault for allowing it. If I'm ever a professor, I'm locking my door at class start time and if you didn't make it in, sucks to be you.
A nice thought, but you can bet that the first time you did this, said locked out student would go crying to the Dean and YOU'D be the one getting the talking to with a "you can't do that" to top things off. Guarantee it!
Yes, this is rude, but it's your instructor's fault for allowing it. If I'm ever a professor, I'm locking my door at class start time and if you didn't make it in, sucks to be you.
A nice thought, but you can bet that the first time you did this, said locked out student would go crying to the Dean and YOU'D be the one getting the talking to with a "you can't do that" to top things off. Guarantee it!
Oh, I would have informed the school of my intentions to do so before accepting the teaching position, and if they weren't okay with that, would not accept the job.
There is very little mystery to me. :)
Dear Student,
One year I had fourteen clinical students (two groups of seven, twice a week each). Each had a care plan and a journal due to me every week. That's 28 pieces of written work that they were perfectly justified in expecting me to read carefully and provide them with thoughtful feedback that would help them grow in the profession and help me know them and their learning needs better. Now, if you think this took at least an hour a week per student, you will have an inkling of how much time I put into that alone. I was also at the clinical venue an hour before them to do assignments, stayed late for conferences, and attended staff meetings with the floor to see how they saw the students. My "lunch" was 5 minutes wolfing down a sandwich while my students did their 5-minute med math quiz (oh, the horror! but they did learn it better) at the beginning of postconference. And bathroom? Did you say ... bathroom? I'm not entirely sure where that was. That was pre-menopause, too, so I'm sure I dealt with menstruation somehow. Hard to say.
Now add in the time I spent preparing postconference presentations and activities, writing letters of rec for students for job apps or grad school, the lectures I prepared (with note-taking outlines, overheads/slides/PP) and delivered, and the exams I wrote and corrected, and did pre- and post-review sessions on.
And oh yes-- my commute time, an hour+ each way, every day. And I want to tell you-- instructors can really not be late, either. And the pay absolutely sucks, half what I could have (and had) been making working in critical care overtime, so in a sense, I was paying a lot for the privilege of being there too. I was able to do it because my husband was making good money in those years (now he's retired).
Then you'll understand why I laughed when my 8-year-old came into the living room one Saturday afternoon and asked me what I was doing. "Just doing my homework for school, sweetie," I answered, surrounded by care plans and journals and outlines. "You have weekend homework?" he replied, horrified. "Yes, I do," I answered him. "So do your teachers."
He was speechless at the injustice of it all. How about you?
Yep, we remember being students. And we have been staff nurses with responsibilities you can't begin to imagine, most of us for many years. But very few of you have a clue about being nurses yet. Or teachers.
Julie Reyes, DNP, RN
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I am sorry you had a bad experience with your professor. I am a strong believer that you can have a rigid regimen and cover mountains of material while teaching students - and do it in a tactful, classy, emotionally intelligent, exceptional manner. Students (in my opinion) learn best when they respect the instructor and strive to meet the high standards that the instructor sets.
That being said, the instructor respects the nursing student as an adult that makes decisions - good or bad - and is accountable for whatever decision that is...be it going to the bathroom and missing information or waiting. The instructor lives up to the needs of the student to succeed and grasp the information - and will teach the students exceptionally well, hopefully - in order to pass the NCLEX and get that coveted license. If a student has to miss something, they can - in most cases - get it from other students. If it is a skill that is being worked on in lab, there are usually make up days.
I never would expect an instructor OR a student to act in such a manner. This is a profession that is held in high esteem and is highly respected by most people. ....and because I would never treat any human being with such disrespect (except my ex husband...), I would expect to be treated in a respectful way no matter if I were the student or the professor.
Best of luck - and may you always remember your roots and act accordingly in the future!