CSU Fullerton Fall 2010 applicants?

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Hi everyone!

I haven't seen any postings from CSUF EL-MSN Fall 2010 applicants! Are there any of you out there? I received my complete checklist about two weeks ago and was curious if anyone else has heard anything from the school?? Good luck to all of you!!!

I'm probably not in your interview session so I don't recall that question being asked. But I do recall that she said most students are able to assume CNL roles after getting a couple of years of work experience....so I thought the program would grant a CNL cert. I checked the nursing website and it says only "RN" licensure and doesn't mention anything about CNL, so you might be right.

I think the length of the program and the cost associated with being unemployed or partially employed for 3 years while shelling out $9k a year for tuition alone would be a huge deterrant for a lot of people. Maybe that's why they have so many people waitlisted this year.

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Yeah its strange because I assumed it was a CNL program too. I remember making it a big question and being like, "so is this a CNL program"? And they asked the whole interview group (35 people) "do you guys all know what a CNL is?" and then they said no. They even introduced one of the professors as a CNL and she said that with additional courses/training that it is possible after the program is done, but they were really vague about it...maybe a little ashamed haha. But they seemed pretty sure that its not like the other programs like UCLA that directly award the CNL. It just seems like a few of you guys on the forum are really excited about the CNL role, so maybe it won't hurt to ask more questions.

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I believe Fullerton is a great program too, but I agree that the last year and half just working on the masters seems a little uncertain to me. If its not CNL exactly and there are no NP options or CNS courses then how exactly does it stretch out to another 1.5 years after doing all the pre-licensure work. I'm not against Fullerton because I think its better than a lot of other programs its just the dots are not lining up for me yet and I feel like I still have more questions.

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My main objective is simply to become an RN and gain some valuable work experience so that I could apply for advanced nursing programs...my understanding of the CNL designation (having had to write an essay for CSUDH) is that it is a fairly new designation that does not necessarily expand the scope of practice beyond that of an RN's. In fact, one of the articles I read referred it to a leader "in name only" - meaning that CNL essentially = RN + more classes and approx 500 more clinical hours. CNL desgination is one way for hospitals to achieve magnate status. By employing a set # of CNL per floor, hospitals can achieve magnate status and obtain further funding. CNLs are meant to be "advanced generalists" with additional leadership coursework and clinicals. As far as the scope of practice, the earning potential, they are completely on par with RNs. RNs with BSN can be promoted to charge nurse as can CNLs with MSN can. The argument is that CNL may be useful if you want to go into management, but you really don't need to be a CNL to become a manager.

I'm not too disappointed that CSUF doesn't award the CNL designation (and I'm sure you can become a CNL by taking a few more classes/doing more clinicals). Although I agree that 36 months is lengthy...I'm a little confused as to the purpose of the last 18 months (other than a tuition grab lol). I think it just seems like a longer program due to the 8 credit summers (which is conveniently just over the minimum for full time tuition). Hopefully there's a way to double up some of those summer semesters.

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For me I don't mind - I'm only 23 and I don't really want to start working a full-time job yet (I have an online business that's giving me enough pocket money). My ultimate goal is to get into the anesthetist program there and if I have a good record during the program and make relationships with the faculty, I'm sure it will help me when I apply to the program with less experience as an ICU nurse than other applicants. This is a big assumption but I think they will prefer someone who succeeds in their general Masters program over other applicants. If people are interested in getting a CNL cert or becoming an NP, I'm sure that it will be a quick path after getting a general Masters.

I believe Fullerton is a great program too, but I agree that the last year and half just working on the masters seems a little uncertain to me. If its not CNL exactly and there are no NP options or CNS courses then how exactly does it stretch out to another 1.5 years after doing all the pre-licensure work. I'm not against Fullerton because I think its better than a lot of other programs its just the dots are not lining up for me yet and I feel like I still have more questions.
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This is my best guess of my points:

B.A. GPA (last 90 qtr units) = 3.5

MPH GPA = 3.8

--> 10 - 24 pts (they may have averaged the two GPAs or used the higher one)

Pre-req GPA = 4.0 --> 20 pts

Volunteer experience --> 5 pts

Residency --> 10 pts

LOR --> 10 pts

Interview --> 20 pts (my guess)

Total estimated score range: 75/105 - 89/105 (which is 71 - 85%)

Can anyone who got accepted or on the alternate list let me know how many points you had? I emailed to see if I could find out what the average number of points was so that I could compare my application to see how competetive I was, she told me that it is not predetermined ahead of time and that it varies from year to year. I just want to see if I was waaaaayyyyy off, or just barely missed out so I know whether or not to try again next year.
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Anyone that was selected for the alternate list hear any good news yet??

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23rd is the deadine for response so they will prob send stuff to you after that. Good luck!

Anyone that was selected for the alternate list hear any good news yet??
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Just got CSULB email... this is worst than waiting for acceptances - I have to decide between getting into advanced nursing early at LB or being patient and going to CSUF to increase my chances of getting into their CRNA program...

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IM GOING WITH CSULB. NO ONE IS HIRING NAs AND AS LONG AS YOU GET GREAT GRADES, YOU CAN GET INTO A NA PROGRAM PRETTY EASILY. GLUCK GASHIN!! AND CONGRATS:yeah:

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Yeah I'm choosing CSULB, no Fullerton for me. I think it will take at least until half way through May to cycle through a few alternates.

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Hmm but no body hires NPs without a lot of experience.... I'm really torn here because I know CSULB will be torture for the BSN half and it will have less financial aide than CSUF since it is a post-bacc.

IM GOING WITH CSULB. NO ONE IS HIRING NAs AND AS LONG AS YOU GET GREAT GRADES, YOU CAN GET INTO A NA PROGRAM PRETTY EASILY. GLUCK GASHIN!! AND CONGRATS:yeah:
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