COVID-Positive Nurses Working: Irresponsible or Smart?

On Monday, November 9th, the governor of North Dakota announced COVID positive healthcare providers (HCP), without symptoms, will be allowed to continue working in COVID-19 units in hospitals and nursing homes. Is the decision a step in the right direction or simply irresponsible?  Read on to learn more. Nurses COVID Article

On November 12th, the CDC reported 94% of U.S. jurisdictions are experiencing an increase in COVID-19 cases.  Hospitals are having to consider creative ways to stretch resources as admissions rates continue to climb.  In North Dakota, hospitals are at 100% capacity, lacking needed beds and facing dire staffing shortages.. Hospital administrators asked state leaders to allow asymptomatic COVID-positive healthcare providers (HCP) to continue working in COVID-19 units in hospitals and nursing homes to help with staffing.

CDC Crisis Guidelines

The CDC published a set of guidelines to provide relief during the pandemic when staffing shortages reach crisis level. This includes developing criteria to identify staff suspected of having the virus (or have tested positive) who are well enough to return to work before meeting the CDC’s Return to Work Criteria.  The employee must be willing to continue working or suspected having COVID-19 or actually testing positive.  Other considerations include:

  • The type of HCP shortage that needs to be addressed.
  • Where the HCP is in the course of their illness.
  • The type of symptoms they are experiencing
  • What interaction they have with patients and other facility HCPs (do they work in direct patient care, telemedicine, etc).
  • The type of patients they care for (patients who are not COVID-19 positive).

The governor reported other states are already using this strategy already.  However, the governor’s spokesman lacked available information on any other states that have this policy in place.

Nurses Pushback

If you are a nurse (or any HCP), your internal “this is just wrong” alarm may be going haywire at the thoughts of working while COVID- positive.  The North Dakota Nurses Association (NDNA) released a statement recommending additional public health measures be mandated before implementing the policy.  For example, North Dakota doesn’t have a statewide mask mandate at this time.

The president of the NDNA, Tessa Johnson, argues “The governor has put this policy out and still, no masks are required.  It feels like a slap in the face to nurses right now”.  Johnson also made these arguments against nurses working while testing positive for the virus.

  • The policy has protections built in for patients and co-workers, but these don’t work in real life.  For example, if a COVID-positive nurse is only caring for other COVID-19 patients, they will still use common areas, such as bathrooms, elevators, break rooms and hallways.
  • Rural hospitals are often connected to a long-term care facility, with the same nurse caring for all the COVID-19 patients.  How would virus spread be prevented in these situations?
  • As the most trusted profession, would nurses lose credibility with the public by working COVID-positive?  Especially after nurses have been pushing the importance of social distancing and staying home to prevent virus spread.
  • Will employers retaliate if a virus-positive nurse is unwilling to work, or will their decision be respected by the facility.

Could More Be Done?

The CDC provides other strategies to alleviate staffing shortages during the pandemic.  But, are hospitals and nursing homes doing what the CDC considers “baseline” to ease the problem?  Take a minute to consider your employer and ask yourself “Does my facility….?.”

  • Understand the minimum number of staff to provide a safe work and patient environment?
  • Communicate with local, federal, state, and health partners to identify additional HCPs to help when needed, such as:
  • Hiring additional HCPs, such as retired nurses and nursing students
  • Adjusting staff schedules
  • Rotating HCP to patient support positions.
  • Providing adequate orientation and training

The Guilt We Carry

The pandemic is placing a healthy dose of guilt on nurses all across the country (and world).  We know nurses have a high work ethic and are dedicated to both patients and their co-workers.  Saying “no” to care for ourselves often results in feelings of guilt.  I can only imagine the unbearable guilt nurses may experience thinking they passed the virus to a vulnerable patient.

What Do You Think?

Would you be willing to work if you tested positive for COVID-19?  


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Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
2 hours ago, Robmoo said:

Is it to save money on agency and travelers

In many areas there are no travelers to be had because they’re already on a contract or not taking contracts. My facility has not been able to get any agency on board even though we want to get them

Specializes in Orthopedics/Oncology/ICU/Pediatrics.

Most of my precious charges are oncology patients... I could not face my Creator if I tested positive and went to work and passed it on to them.  It is unethical at the bare minimum. It is one thing to be asymptomatic and not know I have it, but then they should be testing us on a regular basis and providing us with the proper PPE.  That didn't happen.  That is also why I left hospital work last week.  But we can't all leave... this is a disaster...and that mandate will make it worse. I feel that to knowingly have it and subject my patients to it is again unethical.  

Specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing.
On 11/17/2020 at 7:15 AM, JVBT said:

Months back, I feel like I read something on allnurses by a nurse who'd tested positive who was working, and the provisions made for her and others. I raised my eyebrow then. I'd have to spend some precious time going back to look for that.

Otherwise, creativity is called for. There are nurses on the sideline who are being ignored. They want to get in the game but may lack the acute care experience, so they are just trodded over. Creativity would come into play by putting them to work in a limited but skills build-able capacity in an acute care setting. This can be done, but it takes energy, smarts, and commitment. There are nurses who are willing to work on an ad-hoc basis in return for the chance to build skills and provide care. No one's asking, are they?

I don't disagree. That takes time and training, though, and if the hospital systems didn't have one or the ability to do the other before now, I don't think they will.

1 hour ago, SheepDawgRN said:

Most of my precious charges are oncology patients... I could not face my Creator if I tested positive and went to work and passed it on to them.  It is unethical at the bare minimum. It is one thing to be asymptomatic and not know I have it, but then they should be testing us on a regular basis and providing us with the proper PPE.  That didn't happen.  That is also why I left hospital work last week.  But we can't all leave... this is a disaster...and that mandate will make it worse. I feel that to knowingly have it and subject my patients to it is again unethical.  

I don’t think that is what they’re suggesting. The plan seems to be for Covid-19+ nurses to care for patients who are also Covid-19+, not that sick nurses care for immunocompromised patients who do not have Covid. 
 

 

Specializes in Cardiac, Telemetry.

My place of employment is also forcing us to work with fresh surgery patients while floating is back and forth to covid units. They are also forcing us to work even if we are covid positive but asymptomatic. 

I say nurses strike and let the ceos/cnos come gown up!

Specializes in clinic nurse.
6 hours ago, ruby_jane said:

I don't disagree. That takes time and training, though, and if the hospital systems didn't have one or the ability to do the other before now, I don't think they will.

Let RNs get in and work as an MA initially (or something) until they can more effectively integrate to the flow on the floor. Let them "assist" existing staff nurses. There are ways to do this that works for everyone.

Specializes in Clinical Leadership, Staff Development, Education.
10 hours ago, CardiTeleRN said:

My place of employment is also forcing us to work with fresh surgery patients while floating is back and forth to covid units. They are also forcing us to work even if we are covid positive but asymptomatic. 

That is really scary!  

Specializes in Clinical Leadership, Staff Development, Education.
On 11/17/2020 at 7:15 AM, JVBT said:

Creativity would come into play by putting them to work in a limited but skills build-able capacity in an acute care setting. This can be done, but it takes energy, smarts, and commitment. 

I agree and want to know what initiatives are in place to help staffing and what proactive strategies have been implemented.  

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

What a mess. And no easy solutions.

Specializes in BSN, RN, CVRN-BC.
14 hours ago, CardiTeleRN said:

My place of employment is also forcing us to work with fresh surgery patients while floating is back and forth to covid units. They are also forcing us to work even if we are covid positive but asymptomatic. 

I say nurses strike and let the ceos/cnos come gown up!

We RN's have lost control of our practice.  

Specializes in SCRN.

I don't carry any guilt.

Just maybe a COVID. Asymptomatic.

If I tested positive, that would mean I had symptoms to prompt me to get tested. If one has no symptoms, but test positive, they still should be quarantined, not forced to work and spread the virus. They don't live on the COVID unit, as a PP said, they have to get there and than go home, possibly spreading the virus along the way.

I see the administration desperate. Good, sweat a little from the at-home jobs.

Specializes in SCRN.
On 11/17/2020 at 10:20 AM, macawake said:

It’s in my opinion the collective failure of every single person who hasn’t to the best of their individual ability, done their part in trying to mitigate the spread of the infection. 

Yes, we all failed. Now what?