Comparing how news media headlines and reports on the same story

heron, ASN, RN · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

" Racist assumptions"? Perhaps you should reflect your own racist assumptions. Since assuming is apparently perfectly fine I assume you are a Democrat. One who thinks POC (except asians of course, inconviently ) cannot possibly qualify for university requirements through their own intelligence and hard work? That you have to deducted points from a different person based on race for POC to even get into university? Or that POC are so inept, or disenfranchised to get their own ID to vote? However im just making assumptions about you right?

Yes. Republican are hell bent of taking money away from children as a punishment. That's ridiculous. Do you believe in blood drinking pedos too?

You have an idea to solve it? Taking it away would hurt them so it can't be taken away. Hence not solvable. Surely telling people they are oppressed according to a theory "not taught in k to 12" but only "university" doesn't help.

Once again someone has made a assertion to my knowledge without backing up that statement. Kind of like bias media. This is the only thing related to the actual topic.

I said nothing about conditioned "victimhood". You did. Care to explain? Or should I just make assumptions?

This makes no sense at all.

toomuchbaloney · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

Go back, read what I wrote. I said NOTHING about taking wellfare away or ending it. I said the policy was detrimental. Not it should be taken away. If you cannot read and not come to conclusions without misinterpreting my words, like you did in the other thread, then don't reply.

It's seems you're bias and think all conservatives have the same ideals across the board to a point in which you make up your own interpretations based on what you think is a conservative is. Instead of asking, you assume. It seems foolish to continue to discuss media bias with this going on. It goes no where as some cannot disassociate from their assumptions and discuss the media as the thread is intended. As evident in the title.

Note. I don't feel like a victim or claiming such in no sense of the word.

You should really focus your remarks on the topic at hand rather than your feelings about my comments. They don't go unnoticed and they are tiresome.

toomuchbaloney · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

You can't solve it now. Some democratic policies have ensured that. So now they can cause fear of the "white conservative" coming for your welfare and pander to POC. Which is incredibly racist in of its self.

What are you talking about, specifically? It seems a bit off topic.

Roitrn · Feb 17, 2023

toomuchbaloney said:

You should really focus your remarks on the topic at hand rather than your feelings about my comments. They don't go unnoticed and they are tiresome.

You should learn to read people's words and not misrepresent them without being able to back them up.

You should learn you can not assume and know people's emotions on line in a forum. Or that humans have emotions and that's not some terrible conservative problem.

I've tried to keep to the topic at hand. I like to discuss media bias. It was actually not partisan. That was the intent. Then it was derailed by your feelings about Trump and angry parents. (I'll assume your feelings now).

If it's tiresome feel free to ignore. I've already said that this discussion with you at this point is redundant.

toomuchbaloney said:

What are you talking about, specifically? It seems a bit off topic.

I don't know. Thought I'd throw in something like "angry parents".

Roitrn · Feb 17, 2023

toomuchbaloney said:

That's the topic of the thread...media bias and misrepresentations. You shared good examples.

Except you failed to explain what you found bias or unsettling with the sources the member cited. Only vaguely suggesting they were "good examples".

heron said:

This makes no sense at all.

Yeah. You're absolutely right! None of it makes sense.

Roitrn · Feb 17, 2023

toomuchbaloney said:

In your opinion...

Did the fact that you made a thread on the topic of media bias imply that you are experiencing agitated feelings about the subject? Does the tenor of your remarks, especially when you disagree, convey agitation, annoyance, frustration or some other feelings to the casual reader? Are you sure.

Is there some magic number of times that I have to answer your question about "all Republicans" or "only Republicans"? You remain welcome to discuss other instances of media bias or violent rhetoric or threats of violence. Is this the thread that you want to discuss violence? Should we start another specifically about violent rhetoric or imagery in political discourse?

I want to discuss the ways in which media is bias. How it serves to manipulate emotions and opinions. The MEDIA.

I've presented same stories from right and left.

No. There is already a thread about angry parents that you started.

nursej22, MSN, RN · Feb 18, 2023

I'm the one who said Trump supporters act like victims. I didn't say conservatives, I didn't say Republicans. Trump and his supporters continually play the victim card. The left lies, the deep state is out to get him, the election was rigged, china sent the virus, the press is enemy #1, commies, socialists, marxists are coming for our guns and girls sports.

It all gets so tiresome.

toomuchbaloney · Feb 18, 2023

Roitrn said:

Except you failed to explain what you found bias or unsettling with the sources the member cited. Only vaguely suggesting they were "good examples".

Yeah. You're absolutely right! None of it makes sense.

The sources are rated as right wing with varied accuracy or reliability.

toomuchbaloney · Feb 18, 2023

Roitrn said:

I want to discuss the ways in which media is bias. How it serves to manipulate emotions and opinions. The MEDIA.

I've presented same stories from right and left.

No. There is already a thread about angry parents that you started.

Great. Try to stick to the topic then rather than characterizing my remarks or telling me how you feel about them.

What did you think about the bias of accuracy of the sources that I called good examples?

toomuchbaloney · Feb 18, 2023

Roitrn said:

You should learn to read people's words and not misrepresent them without being able to back them up.

You should learn you can not assume and know people's emotions on line in a forum. Or that humans have emotions and that's not some terrible conservative problem.

I've tried to keep to the topic at hand. I like to discuss media bias. It was actually not partisan. That was the intent. Then it was derailed by your feelings about Trump and angry parents. (I'll assume your feelings now).

If it's tiresome feel free to ignore. I've already said that this discussion with you at this point is redundant.

I don't know. Thought I'd throw in something like "angry parents".

What did I assume, exactly?

Did I forward the idea that emotions are a "terrible conservative problem"? What words did I use to convey that belief?

You believe that your objection to identifying Fuentes as a white Supremasist in the article you cited is not partisan. Yet, there was no appropriate or applicable reason to criticize the use of that accurate descriptor argued in this thread. Just that it was a form of fallacy and/or inflammatory language. It's not fallacy and white supremacy is inflammatory all by itself.

IMV...The conversion gets derailed by protestations about my examples which use conservative behavior and speech in our news today. It gets derailed by repeatedly asking a slightly different version of the same question over and over regardless of the answer. It gets derailed when I have to read over and over what you think about my remarks rather than just your discussion of topic.

It's not clear to me why you presume to lecture me on what I should "learn" when I've only suggested that you keep your remarks confined to the terms of service. My comments and how you feel about them are not the topic of this thread.

If you'd like to discuss what you think about me or my remarks on a more personal level you should do that in private message.

Roitrn · Feb 18, 2023

toomuchbaloney said:

The sources are rated as right wing with varied accuracy or reliability.

Do the sources are bias and unsettling because they are right wing? That's your qualifier? LOL

Roitrn · Feb 18, 2023

toomuchbaloney said:

What did I assume, exactly?

Did I forward the idea that emotions are a "terrible conservative problem"? What words did I use to convey that belief?

You believe that your objection to identifying Fuentes as a white Supremasist in the article you cited is not partisan. Yet, there was no appropriate or applicable reason to criticize the use of that accurate descriptor argued in this thread. Just that it was a form of fallacy and/or inflammatory language. It's not fallacy and white supremacy is inflammatory all by itself.

IMV...The conversion gets derailed by protestations about my examples which use conservative behavior and speech in our news today. It gets derailed by repeatedly asking a slightly different version of the same question over and over regardless of the answer. It gets derailed when I have to read over and over what you think about my remarks rather than just your discussion of topic.

It's not clear to me why you presume to lecture me on what I should "learn" when I've only suggested that you keep your remarks confined to the terms of service. My comments and how you feel about them are not the topic of this thread.

If you'd like to discuss what you think about me or my remarks on a more personal level you should do that in private message.

Do not be deliberately obtuse. You use references to people's emotions or feelings to devalidate their argument. As in there are facts and there is feelings and emotions. You have several times referred to conservative agitation and angry parents. It's well understood that in most circumstances, people with high emotions sometimes become less rational.

Again. I was not objecting to if Nick Fuentes was a white supremacist or not. I'd ask you to show me where I said that but you are not "playing that game" remember?

You should stop paying so much attention to your own remarks and pay attention to mine. As you have misunderstood several times.

Right. Call you out in private. That's fitting for a thread about bias.