Comparing how news media headlines and reports on the same story

heron, ASN, RN · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

In my opinion POC have been manipulated by some white liberals to be perpetual victims who need the democrats to save them. Welfare was a detrement to poc. Awarding more money to single women if the father of their child wasn't in the home.

Sighting any challenge a POC has is all because of white people.

Interesting that you should cite a policy that supports children regardless of the behavior of their fathers. Is it your position that those children should by punished instead?

Your last sentence makes no sense at all. I await clarification.

Roitrn · Feb 17, 2023

heron said:

Interesting that you should cite a policy that supports children regardless of the behavior of their fathers. Is it your position that those children should by punished instead?

Your last sentence makes no sense at all. I await clarification.

Some democrats assign any challenges a POC has to the fault of "white people" and categorize then as victims. Mainly white conservatives.

Did you purposely misrepresent my word by alleging that I think children "should be punished"? Or otherwise even say that the mothers should have their welfare taken away? Or did you really want a clarification for this as well?

heron, ASN, RN · Feb 17, 2023

Daisy4RN said:

Who is claiming victim hood and who brought up race!

But since you did it is the Democrats with the long history of racism that is still going strong. I posted articles already but you probably didn't read them.

https://enlightenedliberal.com/the-detailed-racist-history-and-present-of-the-democrat-party/

https://townhall.com/columnists/kevingrieve/2021/02/07/democrats-the-party-of-systemic-racism-n2584289

Just in case you don't like the sources and/or don't want to actually read them, and/or don't want to point out any potential errors feel free to do your own research.

I grew up inundated with right-wing victim theory in many different iterations. I don't need anyone's permission to have an opinion on my own lived experience and direct observation. Take it or leave it. You'll either resonate with what I have to say or you won't - I have no control over that. Not playing the dueling citations game with you, either.

heron, ASN, RN · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

Some democrats assign any challenges a POC has to the fault of "white people" and categorize then as victims. Mainly white conservatives.

Did you purposely misrepresent my word by alleging that I think children "should be punished"? Or otherwise even say that the mothers should have their welfare taken away? Or did you really want a clarification for this aswell?

Well - you're the one who cited that policy as detrimental and irrational. How would you solve the problem without punishing the children?

toomuchbaloney · Feb 17, 2023

Daisy4RN said:

As usual you point out the media sources instead of pointing out what you feel may be false about the reporting.

That's the topic of the thread...media bias and misrepresentations. You shared good examples.

toomuchbaloney · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

Your agitation and feelings of the matter is evident in that you created a whole topic about it.

Is it in your opinion that the inflammation caused by media is only a right wing problem? Or are you arguing the media on the right is more bad than the left? Who did it worse?

What about the violent instances I sited above. What media do you believe these 2 violent radical people were consuming to threaten the life of a SCOTUS judge and open fire on conservatives?

Who said anything about being a victim?

In your opinion...

Did the fact that you made a thread on the topic of media bias imply that you are experiencing agitated feelings about the subject? Does the tenor of your remarks, especially when you disagree, convey agitation, annoyance, frustration or some other feelings to the casual reader? Are you sure.

Is there some magic number of times that I have to answer your question about "all Republicans" or "only Republicans"? You remain welcome to discuss other instances of media bias or violent rhetoric or threats of violence. Is this the thread that you want to discuss violence? Should we start another specifically about violent rhetoric or imagery in political discourse?

toomuchbaloney · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

Some democrats assign any challenges a POC has to the fault of "white people" and categorize then as victims. Mainly white conservatives.

Did you purposely misrepresent my word by alleging that I think children "should be punished"? Or otherwise even say that the mothers should have their welfare taken away? Or did you really want a clarification for this aswell?

Some democrats? Really? Is that something you picked up in unbiased media or do you have a name or example?

If you take welfare dollars from vulnerable single mothers do you think that would negatively impact the children in the care of the mothers? Or are you saying that your comment about welfare being detrimental to poc and single parent households wasn't implying that the detrimental what should be reduced or eliminated?

Roitrn · Feb 17, 2023

heron said:

Well - you're the one who cited that policy as detrimental and irrational. How would you solve the problem without punishing the children?

You can't solve it now. Some democratic policies have ensured that. So now they can cause fear of the "white conservative" coming for your welfare and pander to POC. Which is incredibly racist in of its self.

Roitrn · Feb 17, 2023

toomuchbaloney said:

Some democrats? Really? Is that something you picked up in unbiased media or do you have a name or example?

If you take welfare dollars from vulnerable single mothers do you think that would negatively impact the children in the care of the mothers? Or are you saying that your comment about welfare being detrimental to poc and single parent households wasn't implying that the detrimental what should be reduced or eliminated?

Go back, read what I wrote. I said NOTHING about taking wellfare away or ending it. I said the policy was detrimental. Not it should be taken away. If you cannot read and not come to conclusions without misinterpreting my words, like you did in the other thread, then don't reply.

It's seems you're bias and think all conservatives have the same ideals across the board to a point in which you make up your own interpretations based on what you think is a conservative is. Instead of asking, you assume. It seems foolish to continue to discuss media bias with this going on. It goes no where as some cannot disassociate from their assumptions and discuss the media as the thread is intended. As evident in the title.

Note. I don't feel like a victim or claiming such in no sense of the word.

heron, ASN, RN · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

You can't solve it now. Some democratic policies have ensured that. So now they can cause fear of the "white conservative" coming for your welfare and pander to POC. Which is incredibly racist in of its self.

As for white conservatives coming for welfare, please review the last four decades of state and federal legislation. Sure looks punitive to me, especially to the children. According to you, the problem is now officially insoluble. How convenient.

Once again, your knowledge base is minuscule.

We won't discuss the racist assumptions you're making about non-European communities.

So ... you were saying about conditioned victimhood?

heron, ASN, RN · Feb 17, 2023

Roitrn said:

Go back, read what I wrote. I said NOTHING about taking wellfare away or ending it. I said the policy was detrimental. Not it should be taken away. If you cannot read and not come to conclusions without misinterpreting my words, like you did in the other thread, then don't reply.

It's seems you're bias and think all conservatives have the same ideals across the board to a point in which you make up your own interpretations based on what you think is a conservative is. Instead of asking, you assume. It seems foolish to continue to discuss media bias with this going on. It goes no where as some cannot disassociate from their assumptions and discuss the media as the thread is intended. As evident in the title.

Note. I don't feel like a victim or claiming such in no sense of the word.

And yet you just took most of a post to complain about being misrepresented.

You just can't make this stuff up!

ETA: kudos for a great flounce!

Roitrn · Feb 17, 2023

heron said:

As for white conservatives coming for welfare, please review the last four decades of state and federal legislation. Sure looks punitive to me, especially to the children. According to you, the problem is now officially insoluble. How convenient.

Once again, your knowledge base is minuscule.

We won't discuss the racist assumptions you're making about non-European communities.

So ... you were saying about conditioned victimhood?

" Racist assumptions"? Perhaps you should reflect your own racist assumptions. Since assuming is apparently perfectly fine I assume you are a Democrat. One who thinks POC (except asians of course, inconviently ) cannot possibly qualify for university requirements through their own intelligence and hard work? That you have to deducted points from a different person based on race for POC to even get into university? Or that POC are so inept, or disenfranchised to get their own ID to vote? However im just making assumptions about you right?

Yes. Republican are hell bent of taking money away from children as a punishment. That's ridiculous. Do you believe in blood drinking pedos too?

You have an idea to solve it? Taking it away would hurt them so it can't be taken away. Hence not solvable. Surely telling people they are oppressed according to a theory "not taught in k to 12" but only "university" doesn't help.

Once again someone has made a assertion to my knowledge without backing up that statement. Kind of like bias media. This is the only thing related to the actual topic.

I said nothing about conditioned "victimhood". You did. Care to explain? Or should I just make assumptions?