Columbia SON MDE 2019

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Hey Everyone!

Just wanted to start this thread for those who are all applying to the Columbia School of Nursing MDE program for 2019 Entry.

I figured we could all share our thoughts/ questions/ concerns here, or just use this to meet some new people ?

My name is Gurdeep, I'm from NY, and I'm a recent Grad from Binghamton University. Looking forward to meeting all of you ?

Specializes in MSN, RN.
3 hours ago, gsfes said:

Hi all, actually the degree after MDE is not MSN, it is MS. To be an APRN, one has to complete the DNP program. Only with MDE, one can be an RN. I was accepted to the MDE program but am hesitating because the class load is very high and you will still be an RN. That's why I will probably stick with NYU ABSN and try to do DNP after some work experience. I am just worried that my GPA may drop with such a high load.

This is incorrect.

After the MDE you have an MSN per CU's FAQ's page. The difference is that you don't have all the credits/practicums to be an NP. You can do a post masters at another institution (vandy, duke, etc) and become an NP if you decide to not do the DNP at CU.

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30 minutes ago, Syra007 said:

This is incorrect.

After the MDE you have an MSN per CU's FAQ's page. The difference is that you don't have all the credits/practicums to be an NP. You can do a post masters at another institution (vandy, duke, etc) and become an NP if you decide to not do the DNP at CU.

Thanks, yes, this is what I thought. MS was a typo; you get MSN but not MSNP. You can probably transfer some of the courses to another program to become an NP or DNP.

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3 hours ago, Syra007 said:

This is incorrect.

After the MDE you have an MSN per CU's FAQ's page. The difference is that you don't have all the credits/practicums to be an NP. You can do a post masters at another institution (vandy, duke, etc) and become an NP if you decide to not do the DNP at CU.

If there are so many MSNP program out there, why should one be become a DNP if employment afterwards is pretty much the same?

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53 minutes ago, abcdenrse said:

If there are so many MSNP program out there, why should one be become a DNP if employment afterwards is pretty much the same?

Well from what I’ve heard there has been a push to make all NPs have a DNP so this way you wouldn’t have to go back to school later on. I could be wrong but that is what I’ve heard

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Hi everyone! I got accepted into the MDE program! Super happy and excited for this new chapter in my life. Best of luck to everyone! Congrats!

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Specializes in Psychiatry, Public Health.
9 hours ago, abcdenrse said:

If there are so many MSNP program out there, why should one be become a DNP if employment afterwards is pretty much the same?

If you have federal employment whether civil service or uniformed service payscale is higher for doctorally prepared clinicians. Also doctoral education paves the way for teaching positions if that's something you like. :)

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Hi All - anyone still finishing up pre-reqs? I'm enrolled in a Stats class (since my last one was >5 years ago), but I've not yet signed up for a Nutrition class. Anyone familiar with an accelerated online course location? Or has anyone done the uexcelsior credit by exam? (If so, what did you think?)

Any input appreciated !

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Specializes in MSN, RN.
22 hours ago, abcdenrse said:

If there are so many MSNP program out there, why should one be become a DNP if employment afterwards is pretty much the same?

Anyone who does not have a DNP will be grandfathered in if the DNP becomes required. The same thing happened to the pharmacists and physical therapists.

In the private sector (hospitals etc) DNP and NP pay basically the same thing but there is a push to make the DNP required for NP practice by 2025.

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On 1/19/2019 at 7:10 PM, FuturePsychNP21 said:

Yes I am in the psych DNP! I just started it so cannot really give much of an opinion yet (I have found that the first semesters of nursing programs tend to be introductory and not really give as much indication of how the rest of the program will be - just my experience), but I will say that I'm excited about my upcoming clinicals and courses! Graduates often get connections with their clinical sites here in NYC, but now that we have a residency year many people will probably be working at their residency sites beyond the year required for the DNP. Residency can be done anywhere in the country and in any setting that is willing to take you (inpatient, outpatient, residential), so it really depends on your interests.

What was the class schedule like throughout the week, any possibility I can keep my part time job or would it be in my best interest to solely focus on the MDE program?

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4 hours ago, ellielianne said:

What was the class schedule like throughout the week, any possibility I can keep my part time job or would it be in my best interest to solely focus on the MDE program?

The schedule during MDE is very busy, you will pretty much always have class from at least 8-5 Monday-Friday (some evenings you may have simulation and have to stay later). In addition to that time in class, you will have a lot to study outside of class hours. I would highly recommend not working during the program if you are able to avoid it, but if you need to then try to make sure that your part time job is aware that you're in an accelerated program and they are flexible with your work schedule. If you are also planning on doing the DNP, working during the DNP is very doable and most people do!

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2 hours ago, FuturePsychNP21 said:

The schedule during MDE is very busy, you will pretty much always have class from at least 8-5 Monday-Friday (some evenings you may have simulation and have to stay later). In addition to that time in class, you will have a lot to study outside of class hours. I would highly recommend not working during the program if you are able to avoid it, but if you need to then try to make sure that your part time job is aware that you're in an accelerated program and they are flexible with your work schedule. If you are also planning on doing the DNP, working during the DNP is very doable and most people do!

Thanks for the info!! I would only be working Saturdays from 8-4, based on your experience would that interfere with my studies? Also, how soon do you start clinicals?

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1 hour ago, ellielianne said:

Thanks for the info!! I would only be working Saturdays from 8-4, based on your experience would that interfere with my studies? Also, how soon do you start clinicals?

If you are able to prioritize studying during the week in order to have Saturdays open for work then you should be ok, personally I liked having my weekend open so I could study one day and have the other day off (or sometimes study both days if there were several exams coming up). You start clinicals your second week of class the first semester!

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