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clinical/grading system

What is the grading system like in your clinical? In my school, your only allowed to make 3 freakin mistakes n then your out!

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Our clinical grades are 0-4. The numbers pretty much line up with the A, B, C, D, F grading system. 4=A, 3=B, etc. We have to have an average of a 2 (2=C) to pass clinically.

Btw, you say you're "only" allowed 3 mistakes before you're kicked out...What kind of mistakes are you talking about exactly?

Our clinical grading is computed with a rubric that's on a 100 point scale and counts for 55% of our course grade (theory counts for the other 45%). Additionally, you can't have one pull you in to passing, you need to pass both clinical and theory to pass the course.

We are solely graded on the "lecture" (a joke, we don't have lectures...but it's called the lecture portion, it's based on all of the assigned readings) portion of the course. The clinical part is pass/fail. We have all kinds of crap we have to bring for clinical and do tons of research before and during, but we don't really get a grade per se.

We have to do skills in lab as well as in clinical. We have to get either a satisfactory or minimally satisfactory in order to pass the skill. If you get an unsatisfactory, you have 2 more chances to pass that skill. If you don't pass after 3 tries you are out of the program.

Our clinical grading is computed with a rubric that's on a 100 point scale and counts for 55% of our course grade (theory counts for the other 45%). Additionally, you can't have one pull you in to passing, you need to pass both clinical and theory to pass the course.

That is how ours is. We fill out how we think we did on the rubric as does the teacher. We have a final conference and compare the instructors and ours comments and grades

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Our clinical grades are 0-4. The numbers pretty much line up with the A, B, C, D, F grading system. 4=A, 3=B, etc. We have to have an average of a 2 (2=C) to pass clinically.

Btw, you say you're "only" allowed 3 mistakes before you're kicked out...What kind of mistakes are you talking about exactly?

The prof has about 30 objectives on the grading rubric that are based on a 1-4 numbered system, (1 being the worst and 4 being outstanding). If you get a grade lower than 3, you fail for that clinical day. And you're only allowed 3 clinical failures.

I made 2 mistakes so far....one was a minor mistake and the 2nd mistake was more serious, which i don't want to discuss

that is similar to our grading system. we have some leeway, of course, but if you are performing poorly and making numerous mistakes, it is a liability to the school and hospital.

i am sorry you are dealing this.

can you give us any idea of what you are struggling with? maybe we have some ideas to help you. :)

What is the grading system like in your clinical? In my school, your only allowed to make 3 freakin mistakes n then your out!

Everything clinical related is Pass/Fail

The prof has about 30 objectives on the grading rubric that are based on a 1-4 numbered system, (1 being the worst and 4 being outstanding). If you get a grade lower than 3, you fail for that clinical day. And you're only allowed 3 clinical failures.

I made 2 mistakes so far....one was a minor mistake and the 2nd mistake was more serious, which i don't want to discuss

I realize you think that you are being mistreated, but ... 30 objectives? That sounds like a lot of detail. They have told you what the expectations are ahead of time, and you should prepare accordingly.

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I guess it depends on how you define "mistake." In the programs in which I've taught (or been a student, in the past), just one "mistake" in clinical that was serious enough (that put a client seriously at risk or showed really poor judgment) could get you out of the program. Certainly, a pattern of mistakes would result in the student failing a clinical course. And, as JamieJCST described, if you failed to pass all of your lab skills check-offs in three tries, that would mean you failed a course. As instructors, it was our responsibility to do midterm clinical evaluations to let students know where they stood so they had time and opportunity to improve their performance if necessary (and, of course, we would address any significant errors/mistakes/problem behaviors promptly, and not wait until midterm).

I agree. What kind of mistakes are we talking about?

If I show up to clinical unprepared (don't know the medications my patients are on, don't understand the patho of the disease they presented with, etc) then we get sent home for the day. If we pick a patient the day of clinical, we have to report within an hour to the instructor with everything we need to know or we get sent home. If we make a serious error, such as giving the wrong medication or the wrong dose, it can lead to a failure in the program not to mention the patient could be seriously harmed.

If it's a mistake on paperwork, like the care plan, the instructor will pull us aside and give us ways to improve at which point we have to re-complete the care plan to their liking to get a passing grade in clinical. If they still don't like it, they can fail us for that semester which means failing the lecture portion as well.

For us, in clinical (and clinical learning lab), you either get an S (satisfactory) or a U (unsatisfactory). There are no grades per say, but you have to achieve a certain amount to move on because class and clinical are linked hand in hand, so if you have a 90% average in class but are U in clinical, you fail and have to repeat the whole course. The same goes for if you have a 74.9 in class but are S in clinical, and in fact, did a fantastic job, you fail and have to repeat (75 is passing).

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