Cheating? Girl tells me to get a study girl so I can cheat

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A girl I worked with as a CNA got into nursing school and due to having severe panic attacks she dropped at about the third week. I'm giving you this back story because I start nursing school in about a month. Said coworker is nice enough to give me tips (although anything past the third week is just hearsay) and every time she talks to me she says get a study group early so you have enough people to cheat off of "cuz girl you will need to cheat"

Is this true? I've made it this far without cheating/having the easy profs and done just fine. I know she's trying to help but now I think her advice is no longer helping me. What are your experiences with students "sharing" info??

A girl I worked with as a CNA got into nursing school and due to having severe panic attacks she dropped at about the third week. I'm giving you this back story because I start nursing school in about a month. Said coworker is nice enough to give me tips (although anything past the third week is just hearsay) and every time she talks to me she says get a study group early so you have enough people to cheat off of "cuz girl you will need to cheat"

Is this true? I've made it this far without cheating/having the easy profs and done just fine. I know she's trying to help but now I think her advice is no longer helping me. What are your experiences with students "sharing" info??

When you are going into a career such as nursing the first thing you will learn is you can't be a follower you must have leadership skills and don't believe everything you hear. Even in school.. Good Luck and btw each it's own what's hard for you may not be hard for the next and vise versa. You should have asked her how well did cheating work out for her?? Exactly!

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Thank you all for the great advice! I should have clarified that I'm glad I wasn't in her class because I would never in a million years think of cheating. I was just appalled at the thought that this seemed to be the norm in her eyes. Glad to know she's in the exception and not the rule!

All of your helpful info has led me to another question: how to I tell a possible cheater to move on to the next sap??

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Specializes in Ortho-Neuro Rehab, CRRN.

I suspect one she she you making it past the 3 week mark (ha ha) her comments will subside :)

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All of your helpful info has led me to another question: how to I tell a possible cheater to move on to the next sap??

Just tell that person, straight up, that you don't participate in or condone any form of academic dishonesty. Period. End of discussion. Of all the countless ways there are to cheat, your professors are on to 99% of them, and they have very effective tools and techniques to catch the cheaters. They might not catch you the first semester, or even the first year, but all it takes is one slip-up and you're out of the program, out of the school, and out luck with your plan to become a nurse.

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Specializes in L&D, infusion, urology.

You can always tell her you'd rather EARN your degree and license, and be able to sleep at night and know you're a safe, knowledgeable nurse. You can be honest and straightforward with her (which is probably necessary) without having to get nasty, much as it might be tempting! I'd have a few choice words that I'd probably keep to myself...

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Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

I agree with everyone here. You can get through nursing school without ever having to cheat...you just have to be willing to work hard for it, just like for anything else in life that you really want.

Now, playing devil's advocate for a minute...are you sure that her remark wasn't tongue-in-cheek?

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There were a few at my school other students suspected were cheating. They didn't seem very 'smart', didn't have good gpas upon entry into the program, but got great test grades in nursing school. Functioned okay/barely okay in clinicals, and had A LOT of problems with written assignments and converstion tests. Let's just say they didn't do well on the NCLEX. Getting a study group is worthwhile, but don't cheat!!

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Are you sure she wasn't dropped from the program after 3 weeks for cheating? Some people... As PPs said, cheating is not helping you at all. If you need to cheat your way to become a nurse, Lord help us all... Just, don't cheat. Study and know the material like the back of your hand instead.

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Specializes in LTC.

Sharing info in a study group and cheating are two totally different things. You will learn nothing by cheating...nothing, besides how to be sneaky, and there is no room for sneakiness in this profession.

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Specializes in Pediatric Hematology/Oncology.

By her back story, it seems that she had very little internal discipline and a whole lot of learned helplessness -- why would you even dream of taking her seriously? She needs help with her anxiety if it was that bad that she had to go in the 3rd week. It's highly likely other things were going on there. Cheating is absolutely no solution, especially in a nursing program. There is no need to cheat for any reason at all EVER.

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I would guess the op is worried that if cheating is the norm, expectation is raised to a level that a legitimate student would not be able to handle. The concern would be should one be true to self and fail if expectations are too much, or compromise integrity and fall in line with whatever it takes to succeed. Cheaters are an interesting breed of people. They lack confidence, yet they are courageous enough to openly cheat and speak of their academic prowess in front of the people that observed their shadiness. Interesting to say the least! Perhaps the problem as of late is short attention span, and desire for instant gratification. Which, in my opinion, may contribute to the want for accelerated programs with high demands that few can meet. The other issue which fosters cheating is entitlement, and with the present view that everyone is a winner, how can there be losers? Go ahead and cheat little bobby, little Suzy won and so shall you.

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No room for cheating because you have to face nclex examination upon completion!

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