Chamberlain University FNP Student

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Hi, any nurses here go to Chamberlain for FNP? If so, what was your experience? Did you feel prepared for the clinicals and when you graduated?

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Nurse4389 said:

So what online program do you suggest? Because as a working mom with a medically fragile child...Online schooling is the best option for me with doing my clinicals in person.

No one can seek out a good program for you. Everyone has different life situations.    Since we were suggesting the best brick and mortar you can find use those terms. .   You know your limitations and you yourself mentioned you attended a great school, that was no accident.. you strive for excellence. Do you want to see someones face fall after have the ask you "where did you go to school?"  You reply "xxxx" which is an excellent school  and my NP is from "yyyy" and then you reply I had many conflicting responsibilities. 

Nurse4389 said:

Which, with an online program and choosing my own preceptors, I feel it will be just fine

 

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Specializes in Psychiatry.
Nurse4389 said:

Exactly, I know what type of facilities you are discussing, but finding one completely online is hard to do and most brick and mortar have hybrid schedules. I have to HAVE something I can do while my children are at school. So if you have any legitimate suggestions, I will gladly take them. 

If you're basically saying "I don't have enough time right now to fully focus on learning how to be a medical provider so please give me the easy way out" maybe you should not become an NP right now. That's not a dig, but this is about learning to take care of lives. This attitude of "Hey I will take whatever easy program I can find because I'm busy" is why other medical providers laugh at us. NP school isn't supposed to be convenient. 

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Specializes in Peds/L&D/Med Surg/CC.
MentalKlarity said:

If you're basically saying "I don't have enough time right now to fully focus on learning how to be a medical provider so please give me the easy way out" maybe you should not become an NP right now. That's not a dig, but this is about learning to take care of lives. This attitude of "Hey I will take whatever easy program I can find because I'm busy" is why other medical providers laugh at us. NP school isn't supposed to be convenient. 

With 20 years of nursing experience, I do have a pretty good idea that I have people's lives within my hands. Actually have personally saved quite many to be exact. So I'm not looking for an "easy program”… I'm looking for a program I can do online while my children are at school. I'm not a 2 year experience nurse in a clinic looking to get my masters quick. 
 

My medically fragile child is only going to get more handicap as he ages, so actually this is a great time for me to go back to school because his medical bills will only become more and he will start needing more care in the after school hours. 
 

Again, the responses I have received have been nothing but negative and haughty. Because I'm searching for the best way to pay for my son's medical care, keep my job, while being a good wife/mother/nurse, and care for my son when hey gets out of school each day... and doing my online classes from 8-3 is a great option for me..: I've been discriminated against and simply dogged. 
 

 Going to a facility at night isn't an option for me. I can do all my clinicals locally and with some of the best physicians/NPs I have ever worked with between the hours of 8 and 3. 
 

Despite asking numerous times for actual program suggestions. No one yet has given me any proper advice or any suggestions at all, yet still claiming there are "so many options out there". As nurses, you should be lining up to help another nurse, instead you are the stereotypical "eat their young". I am truly aghast by the comments, assumptions, and conceited behavior that I have received from the last few posts on this thread. 
 

Since this thread has been nothing but negativity, with no help and no answers other than complaining.. I wish you all the best and I hope the next person like me that comes along simply looking for help gets treated better than me. 
 

 

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Specializes in Psychiatry.
Nurse4389 said:

With 20 years of nursing experience, I do have a pretty good idea that I have people's lives within my hands. Actually have personally saved quite many to be exact. So I'm not looking for an "easy program”… I'm looking for a program I can do online while my children are at school. I'm not a 2 year experience nurse in a clinic looking to get my masters quick. 
 

My medically fragile child is only going to get more handicap as he ages, so actually this is a great time for me to go back to school because his medical bills will only become more and he will start needing more care in the after school hours. 
 

Again, the responses I have received have been nothing but negative and haughty. Because I'm searching for the best way to pay for my son's medical care, keep my job, while being a good wife/mother/nurse, and care for my son when hey gets out of school each day... and doing my online classes from 8-3 is a great option for me..: I've been discriminated against and simply dogged. 
 

 Going to a facility at night isn't an option for me. I can do all my clinicals locally and with some of the best physicians/NPs I have ever worked with between the hours of 8 and 3. 
 

Despite asking numerous times for actual program suggestions. No one yet has given me any proper advice or any suggestions at all, yet still claiming there are "so many options out there". As nurses, you should be lining up to help another nurse, instead you are the stereotypical "eat their young". I am truly aghast by the comments, assumptions, and conceited behavior that I have received from the last few posts on this thread. 
 

Since this thread has been nothing but negativity, with no help and no answers other than complaining.. I wish you all the best and I hope the next person like me that comes along simply looking for help gets treated better than me. 
 

 

What state are you in? I will tell you good programs to look into. Your previous RN experience means little in making medical decisions, it's a different part of your brain.

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Specializes in Peds/L&D/Med Surg/CC.

Kentucky 

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To add on, becoming a provider isn't gonna improve the dynamic of your child's health needs. Your benefits will likely be worse and the extra hours you will put in as a NP will be much more.  Many nurses going into this field are quickly finding their work life balance in a hospital was much better and the pay more time appropriate. 

I went to frontier myself and while mostly online, there are in person requirements and expectations that you complete/ pass in person physical exams and lofty checks on clinical sites. They still aren't perfect, but they are a far cry better than the for profit centers.  They have higher expectations in passing their tests and don't take in anywhere near the amount of students as other schools.

But as I said earlier, given the totality of what you've indicated earlier, I'm not entirely sold that becoming a provider is in your best interest. 

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Specializes in Peds/L&D/Med Surg/CC.

Thank you for the thoughts, luckily, we can be on my husband's insurance, which is good. I will look into frontier's options. 

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Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
Nurse4389 said:

Kentucky 

Frontier is a reputable nonprofit in KY that provides online education for nurses and NPs.  You should also contact and speak to admissions counselors from the bricks and mortars in your area.  Many of them deliver the didactic portion of education online.  And if you can find your own preceptors, great.  Even schools that find preceptors are happy if you can find your own.  

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Nurse4389 said:

Thank you for the thoughts, luckily, we can be on my husband's insurance, which is good. I will look into frontier's options. 

The fact that you're in Kentucky is HUGE. FNU has an awesome campus with a rich history of nursing service through hazard county. Look into that. Stay away from the chamberlain and other for profits. Many places won't even consider hiring them. 

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Mattheww said:

Its not easy to go to school, study, work and care for your children. you are hard working, diligent and smart for sure....we are not discrediting that; we applaud you for that... youre trying to make health care better for the american people. What people on this forum is mostly displeased about is that there are availability of short cuts...short cuts to obtain a title of discipline that is burdened with significant responsibilities. unless you have some supernatural power, it is impossible for you to be able to see the inner workings of anyone's life. people may be in predicaments you can't even imagine. however against those odds, they find legitimate means to an end. It isn't fair for someone with other issues to be going to school, studying for exams, memorizing and reciting materials for class, when others are taking an open book exam for their one final test...I had to memorize step by step all physical exams for each system. tests, maneuvers to r/o certain conditions. hearing loss? did you do a dix hallpike, is there nystagmus, what's the pattern. what does this physical finding mean? what tests can you order? have you tried epleys or semont...we are tested one by one by a proctor in the school. we're doing all this, while someone I work with who now has a DUAL MASTERS, one as CNS and now as FNP that he got in the last 3 years... tells me that all he had to do for his physical assessment was a couple of online assignments, which he also claims he got answers online. It is not fair, it is not ethical, it is NOT SAFE for the patients down the line. there are many peer reviewed academic articles questioning the competencies of APRN in healthcare. PMD are declining and there is a rise in APRN. currently, hospitals favor hiring more APRN due to their belief of "cost efficiency, health equity," etc... however, increasing access (to poor care) doesn't correlate to better health outcomes and disease prevention.  its no offense, but I believe anyone in the RN level, who took 1 class of primary care can pass the AANP and ancc certification exam. those exams are rudimentary; its an entrance exam designed, at best, to test BASIC NP knowledge. what really stands in the way of incompetence is the 2-3 years of quality training and clinicals NP's receive in school. In those articles I have mentioned, MD's don't see the value in working in collaboration with NP's. they find them incompetent. I know, harsh words, but these are qualitative data, and what many MD's expressed in the studies.  rather than freeing up their time, they found themselves burdened by overseeing NP's work, reviewing their documentations and treatment plans.  I won't share the articles here directly, however you can easily find some on Google. just type in MD views on NP collaborative practice and you'll see an abundance of articles. When enough of these inadequately trained NP's dilute the field, NP's will face negativity and there will be a rise in literature arguing for greater educational requirements. sound familiar with ASN and BSN, and that mortality BS? taking all those fluff courses about policy, research, informatics, public health for bachelors doesn't make you a better CLINICAL nurse. it doesn't reduce hospital mortality. I'm sorry. I don't buy into that. I'm a firm believer in giving nurses the education they need for PRACTICAL APPLICATION. nurses will be better nurses when they are more knowledgeable with the study of medsurg. give them medsurg 1-3, advance medsurg 1-5. take away unnecessary courses. give FNP's and AGNP's primary care 1-5, pharmacology 1 and 2. take away those research, policy crap. you want to include informatics, include it in the informatics degree and pathway. you learned enough through BSN. as masters students, they know how to search research articles...you don't have to reteach them about boolean operators, and whats peer and not peer reviewed, which design of tests are reliable or not... come on. sooner or later, DNP will be the minimum requirement for NP practice. you can guarentee that. 

One way to avoid the problem of family and school is to go to school before you have your babies or go back when they are old enough to fend for themselves.  Family obligations are no excuse to relieve a student of their responsibility to demand a high quality education.  They are paying high tuition for lousy programs.  I no longer support the mandatory BSN because  our own nursing accreditors support the fact that students are just a money grab for so called colleges.  Just made the ASN 3 years and call it a day.

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Specializes in Psychiatry.
Nurse4389 said:

Thank you for the thoughts, luckily, we can be on my husband's insurance, which is good. I will look into frontier's options. 

Look at Frontier and state schools like Eastern Kentucky. All more reputable than chamberlain. This school is an absolute joke and it's an embarrassment that you'd even consider it. Anyone who goes to these for profit joke schools are a completely embarrassment to the profession and I wouldn't let them treat my worst enemy.

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Mattheww said:

I think its criminal for the state board of nursing who gives these for profit institutions AUTHORITY to CLEAR students to take the proficiency exams. why even include masters as a requirement? just leave it open for everyone to take it. lets just go out and buy a springers review book and study for 5 months and pass it...I wasn't privileged enough to go to med school...but even after getting my BSN, I should've went the PA route...the more I speak on this matter the more it irritates me. 

It's all about the Benjamin'$$$$$

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