AANA urges Medicare to consider hospital anesthesiology efficiency measures

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AANA Urges Medicare to Consider Hospital Anesthesiology Efficiency Measures

The AANA has recommended that Medicare consider the costs of various anesthesia delivery models and of hospital anesthesia subsidies per anesthetizing location as part of quality measures intended to capture the efficiency of hospital anesthesia services.

The June 21 letter, signed by President Janice Izlar, CRNA, DNAP, stated, "The Agency may want to consider the costs of meeting the seven medical direction steps as part of the anesthesiology spending and cost-efficiency measure. Under the medical direction practice model, the medical directing anesthesiologist must complete seven steps in order to bill for this modality. The Agency has clearly stated that medical direction is a condition for payment for anesthesiologist services and not a quality standard."

The AANA discussed the ways that the requirements associated with anesthesiologist medical direction claims contribute to healthcare cost growth, noting specifically the requirement that the anesthesiologist be "present at induction." "For every minute spent waiting for an anesthesiologist to arrive and be present at induction, some of the costliest resources in the hospital are wasted. The clock is running on the surgeon, circulating nurse, scrub tech, and nurse anesthetist waiting in the operating room. Waiting costs cascade throughout the day, postponing the surgery schedule to require overtime and on-call staff, delaying the surgeon's rounds to affect patient care and discharge of the patient from the healthcare facility. Waiting costs also add opportunity costs, diverting needed resources from other patient care," continued the letter.

The letter also recommends including the cost per anesthetizing location as part of the proposed anesthesiology measure since hospitals pay an average of $160,096 per anesthetizing location to anesthesiology groups, and increasing the weight placed on clinical process of care measures, such as the Surgical Care Improvement Project (SCIP) measures, under the hospital value based purchasing program.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Please try to remember that a majority of CRNA's practice in ACT practices, and that those practicing independently are a vocal minority

*** Maybe a minority but a VERY important minority. It is after all CRNAs and not AAs or MDAs who make it possible for critical access hospitals all over the country to offer surgical services. This is huge and more than justifies their being vocal.

Specializes in critcal care, CRNA.

As I've pointed out frequently, AA's were not created as a method of control. Please try to remember that a majority of CRNA's practice in ACT practices, and that those practicing independently are a vocal minority.

So - if a CRNA and MD each do a Medicare case at hospitals across the street from each other - same surgery, same duration, same patient modifiers - who gets paid more?

Yes AAs where created for anesthesia shortages. So why start an entire new degree? Why not urge states to create ways for more MDAs and CRNAs to enter the anesthesia field?

So CRNAs are more cost effective for a hospital?

Specializes in Anesthesia, Pain, Emergency Medicine.

Just to clarify. 65% vs 35%. Such a huge majority, LOL

[h=3]Scope of practice[edit][/h]Today, nurse anesthetists practice in all 50 United States and administer approximately 34 million anesthetics each year (AANA). Approximately 65% of CRNAs practice in collaboration with anesthesiologists, in what is termed the "Anesthesia Care Team.” However, CRNAs are educated to work independently. CRNA practice varies from state to state, and is also dependent on the institution in which CRNAs practice. The following paragraphs clarify CRNA practice.

Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.

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Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.
Yes, let's keep in mind who is the most important person here: The patient.

And that was my point - cheaper isn't always better.

My group doesn't take stipends. Others do, including all-CRNA groups. I don't begrudge them that money for a second. If 24/7 coverage is required, someone has to provide that coverage. If your patient volume is high enough and/or your payor mix is favorable enough, you can afford to pay someone even if there is no income coming in. If you have a low patient volume, or a patient population that doesn't pay much (or anything) then the hospital may have to pay a stipend to the individual or group providing the coverage in order to make it financially feasible for them to provide that coverage.

What's happening now is that anesthesia management companies are displacing groups/practices from hospitals, claiming they can do it cheaper, offering economies of scale. Almost universally, quality of care suffers for a number of reasons - loss of experienced personnel, use of inexperienced or lesser qualified providers (all anesthesia providers of any type are not created equal), or cuts in services to accommodate cheaper care. Money that was being paid to the providers is now siphoned off by the management company. And as I indicated earlier, there is always someone willing to do it cheaper. Another management company can show up, offer to do it for X dollars a year cheaper, and out goes the old and in comes the new - until the next cheaper alternative shows up.

Specializes in Anesthesia.
And that was my point - cheaper isn't always better.

My group doesn't take stipends. Others do, including all-CRNA groups. I don't begrudge them that money for a second. If 24/7 coverage is required, someone has to provide that coverage. If your patient volume is high enough and/or your payor mix is favorable enough, you can afford to pay someone even if there is no income coming in. If you have a low patient volume, or a patient population that doesn't pay much (or anything) then the hospital may have to pay a stipend to the individual or group providing the coverage in order to make it financially feasible for them to provide that coverage.

What's happening now is that anesthesia management companies are displacing groups/practices from hospitals, claiming they can do it cheaper, offering economies of scale. Almost universally, quality of care suffers for a number of reasons - loss of experienced personnel, use of inexperienced or lesser qualified providers (all anesthesia providers of any type are not created equal), or cuts in services to accommodate cheaper care. Money that was being paid to the providers is now siphoned off by the management company. And as I indicated earlier, there is always someone willing to do it cheaper. Another management company can show up, offer to do it for X dollars a year cheaper, and out goes the old and in comes the new - until the next cheaper alternative shows up.

Research/articles to back this up? I don't disagree with all of it, but you should back it up with evidence.

Specializes in SICU.

Money that was being paid to the providers is now siphoned off by the management company. And as I indicated earlier, there is always someone willing to do it cheaper. Another management company can show up, offer to do it for X dollars a year cheaper, and out goes the old and in comes the new - until the next cheaper alternative shows up.

Thank God for capitalism. Until studies which prove that this actually causes a decreased level of patient care are produced, what reason is there to stop it? Fly free market, fly!

p.s. nomad - although you definitely did hijack the thread, I thank you for the information presented. We should do things correctly, and this was something I didn't know.

Research/articles to back this up? I don't disagree with all of it, but you should back it up with evidence.

It's common sense. At a certain point, cheaper can't be better.

Look at the care provided in government-run hospitals now, both at the federal, state, and local level. Those patients that have a choice avoid those hospitals like the plague.

Specializes in Anesthesia.
It's common sense. At a certain point, cheaper can't be better.

Look at the care provided in government-run hospitals now, both at the federal, state, and local level. Those patients that have a choice avoid those hospitals like the plague.

Okay, then by now there should be an article that shows this downward trend in quality of care. I agree these management companies that mainly out for profit probably do not have the best personnel management practices.

Specializes in Anesthesia, Pain, Emergency Medicine.

Sigh, some people do not have the education to understand research and evidence based medicine. This makes it difficult to have a scientific discussion. It appears that this is one huge difference in AA vs CRNA education.

I agree with you WTB, if you post something then give the reference proving it. I don't practice "according to common sense" and I know WTB does not either. CRNA practice is based on the best available peer reviewed scientific literature.

But in defense of AAs, they do have MDAs there at all times to decide what is best according to EBM.

But what do we know, we are JUST male nurses.

Okay, then by now there should be an article that shows this downward trend in quality of care. I agree these management companies that mainly out for profit probably do not have the best personnel management practices.
Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
It's common sense. At a certain point, cheaper can't be better.

Look at the care provided in government-run hospitals now, both at the federal, state, and local level. Those patients that have a choice avoid those hospitals like the plague.

*** I take issue with this. The absolute finest health care organization I ever worked for and was a patient of were army hospitals. I choose to receive my care at the VA, even though I have Cadillac health insurance through my employer. I choose the VA for one simple reason, they provide GREAT care. At least the one I go to does.

The Best Care Anywhere - Phillip Longman

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