CDC states only 10,000 patients died DIRECTLY from Covid

allnurses Guide · Sep 1, 2020

Dr. Fauci Debunks False Claims That CDC “Quietly” Changed COVID-19 Deaths

Twitter removed a misleading tweet, which President Trump retweeted, that claimed only about 9,000 people have actually died of COVID-19. This is not true.

Dr. Anthony Fauci on Tuesday clarified a claim recently circulating online that only about 9,000 people have died of COVID-19. President Trump had retweeted a post containing the misinformation, which was mostly shared among QAnon followers — and Twitter quickly took it down.

The since-removed tweet, originally posted by “Mel Q,” a follower of conspiracy theorist group QAnon, claimed that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “quietly” updated its COVID-19 deaths “to admit” only 6% of deaths from COVID-19 were from the virus alone. The other 94% had “2-3 other serious illnesses,” the tweet stated...

White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci confirmed on Tuesday that more than 180,000 people in the U.S. have died from Covid-19.
Fauci’s comments come after some have claimed a new CDC update indicates only 6% of the nation’s total reported Covid-19 deaths were actually from the virus, and the remaining percent died of “other serious illnesses.”
At least 183,600 people have died from Covid-19 in the U.S. as of Tuesday, accounting for just over 21% of the globe’s total reported deaths.

White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci debunked online theories promoted by President Donald Trump that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has changed its guidance for tallying coronavirus deaths, showing a fraction of total Covid-19 fatalities...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/fauci-debunks-theories-of-low-CDC-coronavirus-death-toll-there-are-180000-plus-deaths-in-us.html

"The point that the CDC was trying to make was that a certain percentage of them had nothing else, just COVID. That does not mean that someone who has hypertension, diabetes who dies of COVID didn't die of COVID-19, but they did," he said.

"So the numbers you've been hearing, the 180,000+ are real deaths from COVID-19. Let there not be any confusion about that, it's not 9,000 deaths from COVID-19, it's 180,000+ deaths.

guest416560 · Sep 1, 2020

6 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

"The point that the CDC was trying to make was that a certain percentage of them had nothing else, just COVID

londonflo · Sep 2, 2020

What a ridiculous story from the CDC. Covid, in and off itself does not kill someone without the sequelae of organ failure (lungs, renal etc.) The virus interacts with the human body and causes multiple reactions.

Maybe having your head cut off from a guillotine is the only time we can say that one, and only one thing caused someone's death. The death is not caused by trauma; it caused by the severing of the head from the body.

An individual with breast cancer does not die of the breast cancer itself. They die because of the metastases causing organ failure.

1 hour ago, FNP2B1 said:

Only 10,000 patient have died directly from contracting COVID19. The rest had underlying medical conditions.

Following this inane logic we would say that no one died directly from breast cancer. All the women who died had underlying medical conditions.

And FNP2B1:

Nice try, but the full quote is:

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"The point that the CDC was trying to make was that a certain percentage of them had nothing else, just COVID. That does not mean that someone who has hypertension, diabetes who dies of COVID didn't die of COVID-19, but they did," he said.

"So the numbers you've been hearing, the 180,000+ are real deaths from COVID-19. Let there not be any confusion about that, it's not 9,000 deaths from COVID-19, it's 180,000+ deaths.

allnurses Guide · Sep 2, 2020

4 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

"The point that the CDC was trying to make was that a certain percentage of them had nothing else, just COVID

We may know that, BUT many are interpreting it wrong.

THE FIRST LINK IN THIS THREAD IS CONSPIRACY THEORY NONSENSE!

Twitter Removes Claim About CDC And Covid-19 Coronavirus Deaths That Trump Retweeted

When you see “only 6%” trending on Twitter, the next obvious question is “only 6% of what?”... Various Tweets were pulling the 6% number from the following passage on the “Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)” page on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website:

“Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”For example, a Twitter account named Mel Q (not to be mistaken as a sixth member of the Spice Girls along with Mel B and Mel C) tweeted out the following: Q_Anon.png?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bo

Yeah, the Q doesn’t stand for “quahog” or “quick, say Yosemite.” It seems to stand for QAnon...

... the CDC indicated after the 6%: “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.” Take a gander at what these additional conditions or causes are. They include things such as adult pneumonia, respiratory distress syndrome, respiratory failure, respiratory arrest, other diseases of the respiratory system, and sepsis. Hmmm, these sound very much like the things that Covid-19 can lead to and what can ultimately kill people with severe Covid-19. So, for example, say a person gets a Covid-19 coronavirus infection, which eventually progresses to pneumonia, ARDS, respiratory distress, other organ failure, and death. Then there’s a decent chance doctors will indicate more than one of these conditions as a cause of death...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/08/31/Twitter-removes-claim-about-CDC-and-covid-19-coronavirus-deaths-that-trump-retweeted/#79333d853178

allnurses Guide · Sep 2, 2020

Updated September 1, 2020 Table 2. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States.

Just scroll down

https://www.CDC.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

toomuchbaloney · Sep 2, 2020

3 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

http://www.drugawareness.org/breaking-news-from-CDC-on-real-covid-death-figures/

Only 10,000 patient have died directly from contracting COVID19. The rest had underlying medical conditions.

Have we been wrong in they way we shut down America? Was this all political BS?

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/new-CDC-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

That's your professional analysis? Seriously?

londonflo · Sep 2, 2020

4 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

http://www.drugawareness.org/breaking-news-from-CDC-on-real-covid-death-figures/

This "drugawareness.org" site is pure quackery with conspiracy theory thrown in:

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BREAKING NEWS FROM CDC ON REAL COVID DEATH FIGURES

Posted on August 31, 2020 by Ann Blake-Tracy

Breaking News from CDC via Dinesh D’Souza:

CDC Revised Covid Death Figures To The Extremely Low Figure of Only 10,000, Not 180,000 Deaths! So has this now proved to be biggest medical scam in history leading people to actually kill one another over wearing masks or social distancing?! People have lost their jobs, their homes, their lives, businesses have folded, etc., etc.!!

Dinesh Joseph D'Souza is a far-right political provocateur, author, filmmaker, and conspiracy theorist

emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B · Sep 2, 2020

12 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

http://www.drugawareness.org/breaking-news-from-CDC-on-real-covid-death-figures/

Only 10,000 patient have died directly from contracting COVID19. The rest had underlying medical conditions.

Have we been wrong in they way we shut down America? Was this all political BS?

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/new-CDC-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

That claim you posted from drugawareness got a pants-on-fire rating from politifact. And politifact gets a “least biased” rating itself. Facts matter.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/31/facebook-posts/no-CDC-did-not-quietly-adjust-us-coronavirus-death/?fbclid=IwAR1aZHYWQ1bLKP_e-9Uu2wi9LU3qpcMGuLj4xJMVzrnibL5M2Y5wCljUTb0

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politifact/

londonflo · Sep 2, 2020

16 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

http://www.drugawareness.org/breaking-news-from-CDC-on-real-covid-death-figures/

Only 10,000 patient have died directly from contracting COVID19. The rest had underlying medical conditions.

Have we been wrong in they way we shut down America? Was this all political BS?

Over the weekend, President Donald Trump shared two posts that falsely claimed COVID-19 deaths are not as high as previously thought.

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toomuchbaloney · Sep 2, 2020

So is the president a fool, who cannot discern fact from fiction...or is he trying to create chaos and disagreement to benefit himself?

macawake, MSN · Sep 2, 2020

19 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

http://www.drugawareness.org/breaking-news-from-CDC-on-real-covid-death-figures/

Only 10,000 patient have died directly from contracting COVID19. The rest had underlying medical conditions.

Have we been wrong in they way we shut down America? Was this all political BS?

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/new-CDC-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

I’m not really bothered by all the other threads you’ve started. They are easily recognized as regurgitated disinformation and propaganda about various made-up diagnoses and glaring misrepresentations of reality. That stuff is mostly a mild annoyance. However posting misleading information that directly concerns our profession is in my opinion an embarrassment.

If you actually have all those letters after your name, you know as well as I do that we’ve known since quite early in this pandemic that old age is a big risk factor in relation to Covid-19 and certain comorbidities are also risk factors for a serious outcome. This isn’t news.

You’ve had a high number of excess deaths in the U.S. (higher than the total death toll attributed to Covid so you’re likely underreporting the number of Covid deaths), since the start of the pandemic. Of course the +180,000 are Covid-19 deaths. Yes, a majority of fatalities were elderly people and most had at least one comorbidity. But they died with and of Covid. Something is causing these excess deaths and it isn’t a diabetes, obesity and cardiovascular epidemic that didn’t exist previously and suddenly started in March.