I was recently diagnosed with Lupus and am anxiously awaiting my Rheumatology appointment. While I have been waiting I have been in a lot of pain when I have my flares, so I have put in a request to see a pain management specialist. I told my husband AND my father this and they BOTH suggested I try CBD oil. What the what??? I have told my husband and father several times that since CBD/marijuana is federally ILLEGAL if I take a drug test and pop positive for it I could lose my license or have to report to TPAPN, I don't know which one is worse.
They both told me since I am not working that I should try the CBD oil. Uh, no. I am applying for telecommuting positions. What if I get an interview on Monday and they want me to take a drug test the same day? But I've been using the CBD oil so I have to reject the interview/job/etc all because I couldn't wait to get a legal prescription from a provider.
My husband, I will give him a pass. He is not the brightest crayon in the box. Never was and never will be. But my father, he has a bachelor's degree and has common sense. So I don't know why he doesn't understand this.
This is from Quest Diagnostics Employer Solutions info page. Again, the LARGEST drug screening company for medical personnel in the US. Cannabinol state laws | Quest Diagnostics
"In 2014, a number of southern states began passing low THC/high CBD laws. Today, sixteen states have low THC/high CBD laws for limited medical purposes...
...What this means for employers is that CBD itself will not show up as a positive result for marijuana in a workplace drug test.
However, a medical marijuana cardholder in a low THC/high CBD state could screen positive for THC because some THC is permitted as an ingredient in various CBD products. Specific examples include the laws in Georgia and Virginia, which permit up to 0.5 percent THC"
So if you are not a medical marijuana card holder, and would appear that you are not, you are not able to purchase CBD that has THC in it. If you live in a legal state for cannabis, you would have to be more careful about your source so that it is not tainted with THC. CBD products free of THC are not only available, but mandated state by state depending on marijuana legislation.
Hope you can get yot pain under control. You can buy Meriva on Amazon and there are actual clinical trials that state the benifits on it in managing inflammation and pain in RA. More and more doctors are recommending it.
As far as CBD oil, I find it exciting that natural approaches are becoming more integrated into healthcare but I don't think it is a cure all or should be used without speaking to the PCP. I am looking forward to more research on it, especially in kids with seizure disorders and as adjunctive treatments for various other conditions.
Personally I hope this stuff does work. Research proves that it works and the Feds drop their antiquated unjust marijuana laws. Its up to the individual nurse to decide if using this product is worth the risk. However I think as long as the feds control the Medicare cash their opinion is going to dictate and the state BONs will follow suit. I hope the nurses who choose to use this get some help from it and don't get caught up in the morass of BS that are these monitoring programs. Good Luck All!!
The more basic research we can amass, the more leverage we will have for infusing common sense into laws and policies at every level, including state boards of nursing. Supporting any and all federal legislative moves to change the Schedule 1 drug status for cannabis would be a logical first step in the right direction.
This is from Quest Diagnostics Employer Solutions info page. Again, the LARGEST drug screening company for medical personnel in the US. Cannabinol state laws | Quest Diagnostics
"In 2014, a number of southern states began passing low THC/high CBD laws. Today, sixteen states have low THC/high CBD laws for limited medical purposes...
...What this means for employers is that CBD itself will not show up as a positive result for marijuana in a workplace drug test.
However, a medical marijuana cardholder in a low THC/high CBD state could screen positive for THC because some THC is permitted as an ingredient in various CBD products. Specific examples include the laws in Georgia and Virginia, which permit up to 0.5 percent THC"
So if you are not a medical marijuana card holder, and would appear that you are not, you are not able to purchase CBD that has THC in it. If you live in a legal state for cannabis, you would have to be more careful about your source so that it is not tainted with THC. CBD products free of THC are not only available, but mandated state by state depending on marijuana legislation.
That's all well and good, but the issue is that someone might take that at face value, use CBD, and then still test positive for a test and lose their job. My perspective is anecdotal, but when I've spoken to several people who have tested positive because of CBD, I am inclined to choose to not use it because I feel the risk is too great. Many people report it being helpful, and I think it has value, but while all BONs have zero tolerance, nursing and CBD don't mix.
I'm in a group for chronic pain sufferers, and there is much discussion about CBD, and I'm always sad seeing the photos of people's test results when they test positive for THC and lament "oh, I didn't know this could happen. What will I do now?". There's at least one of these every other week. Every day people ask "which CBD has no THC in it" and then there are another thousand messages of people posting pictures of the THC content of their bottles. This has even happened with isolate CBD oils that supposedly have no THC at all. It's a constant reminder to me to avoid it.
That's all well and good, but the issue is that someone might take that at face value, use CBD, and then still test positive for a test and lose their job. My perspective is anecdotal, but when I've spoken to several people who have tested positive because of CBD, I am inclined to choose to not use it because I feel the risk is too great. Many people report it being helpful, and I think it has value, but while all BONs have zero tolerance, nursing and CBD don't mix.
I'm in a group for chronic pain sufferers, and there is much discussion about CBD, and I'm always sad seeing the photos of people's test results when they test positive for THC and lament "oh, I didn't know this could happen. What will I do now?". There's at least one of these every other week. Every day people ask "which CBD has no THC in it" and then there are another thousand messages of people posting pictures of the THC content of their bottles. This has even happened with isolate CBD oils that supposedly have no THC at all. It's a constant reminder to me to avoid it.
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While it is certainly true that some BONs have taken a "zero tolerance" approach, others have not. Oregon for instance has stated it will view recreational marijuana no differently than alcohol; they will take action if you're found to be impaired while at work based on active levels, what you do on your own time is your own business.
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EaglesWings21 said:
Hope you can get yot pain under control. You can buy Meriva on Amazon and there are actual clinical trials that state the benifits on it in managing inflammation and pain in RA. More and more doctors are recommending it.
As far as CBD oil, I find it exciting that natural approaches are becoming more integrated into healthcare but I don't think it is a cure all or should be used without speaking to the PCP. I am looking forward to more research on it, especially in kids with seizure disorders and as adjunctive treatments for various other conditions.
Thank you! I saw a pain management doctor today & he gave me Lyrica. I hope to get a spine MRI & get more relief after that.
That's all well and good, but the issue is that someone might take that at face value, use CBD, and then still test positive for a test and lose their job. My perspective is anecdotal, but when I've spoken to several people who have tested positive because of CBD, I am inclined to choose to not use it because I feel the risk is too great. Many people report it being helpful, and I think it has value, but while all BONs have zero tolerance, nursing and CBD don't mix.
I'm in a group for chronic pain sufferers, and there is much discussion about CBD, and I'm always sad seeing the photos of people's test results when they test positive for THC and lament "oh, I didn't know this could happen. What will I do now?". There's at least one of these every other week. Every day people ask "which CBD has no THC in it" and then there are another thousand messages of people posting pictures of the THC content of their bottles. This has even happened with isolate CBD oils that supposedly have no THC at all. It's a constant reminder to me to avoid it.
I see your point. Yes, that is rather unfortunate, isn't it.
So let me get this straight. I am a nursing student, I've recentley had a seizure followed by panic attacks now in fear of another seizure, which could potentially trigger a seizure. Talk about a mess. A nurse with anxiety can be put on Xanax no problem. But I am unable to take a CBD oil that won't impair me, but I can take an anti seizure medication along with a medication for panic attacks? This is absurd and quite silly.
For now, any marijuana products use (with or without a card) is not compatible with nursing practice, not in any traditional sense. Maybe someday you could find a private job as an RN with an individual who wouldn't mind, but to get there you would need some experience, and to my knowledge, most healthcare employers will not tolerate it.
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On 3/25/2018 at 4:57 PM, MunoRN said:
It's certainly reasonable to want to avoid any marijuana derivatives out of personal choice or to avoid employment issues, but just to clarify you're not going to "pop positive" for marijuana on a drug test because you take CBD since drug tests don't test for CBD, they test for THC.
Yes, but since CBD oil is not regulated by the FDA, there is no way to be sure you aren't getting any THC in it, so I think it is wise to avoid it.
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This is from Quest Diagnostics Employer Solutions info page. Again, the LARGEST drug screening company for medical personnel in the US. Cannabinol state laws | Quest Diagnostics
"In 2014, a number of southern states began passing low THC/high CBD laws. Today, sixteen states have low THC/high CBD laws for limited medical purposes...
...What this means for employers is that CBD itself will not show up as a positive result for marijuana in a workplace drug test.
However, a medical marijuana cardholder in a low THC/high CBD state could screen positive for THC because some THC is permitted as an ingredient in various CBD products. Specific examples include the laws in Georgia and Virginia, which permit up to 0.5 percent THC"
So if you are not a medical marijuana card holder, and would appear that you are not, you are not able to purchase CBD that has THC in it. If you live in a legal state for cannabis, you would have to be more careful about your source so that it is not tainted with THC. CBD products free of THC are not only available, but mandated state by state depending on marijuana legislation.