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I have been going through some really stressful times - family wise. I was at work and I just felt lousy and dehydrated, so I gave myself a saline iv. I got caught, got fired and now they say they are going to report me to nc bon for practicing medicine without a license?????
Alas....YEARS AGO.....back in the day....we used to do this for those who over indulged....a quick Banana bag and some 100% O2 for those who had a little too much fun. Yes we hid it from administration but had a steady clientele of residents we assisted in the ED sleep room. I remember YEARS ago a senior nurse I worked with had breast cancer a couple of times...her sick time ran out and she had to return to work (pre FMLA) She would be so sick and weak...on nights we would tuck her into a remote bed...start a line and hydrate her while we took up the slack and took care of her patients then told her what to document. Were we technically wrong? yes. Would I do it today? No.
Today....well, it is just different. You can't do this stuff any longer. No one has a sense of humor and administration certainly don't find it amusing.
OP what you did was wrong. If you have malpractice cal them now. If not find a lawyer....do not go in front of the BON without one....they are NOT your friend. I think you also need to seek conuseling for your personal stressors.
((HUGS))
I personally know someone who was suspended by the BON for starting IV fluids on someone else who worked in the department.That was the least of their problems after it was referred to the board of medicine.
Hire an attorney
Just to address one very narrow issue with this; How can this be practicing medincine w/o a license? If I give a pt an aspirin (or any treatment) in a clinical environment w/o DO then I am practicing medicine w/o a license. But if I do that to myself, my child, my parent at home that is not considered practicing medicine. Same here.
Theft and poor judgement, certainly. But not practicing medicine.
From WA state law defining practice of medicine;
(2) Administers or prescribes drugs or medicinal preparations to be used by any other person;
The difference here is that you need a prescription, from a licensed person with endorsement to prescribe, to even obtain the supplies for IV fluids and angio caths/tubing...doing so, without an order....even on yourself, is obtaining/using/taking something without a valid prescription (practicing medicine) and can be punishable by the BONJust to address one very narrow issue with this; How can this be practicing medincine w/o a license? If I give a pt an aspirin (or any treatment) in a clinical environment w/o DO then I am practicing medicine w/o a license. But if I do that to myself, my child, my parent at home that is not considered practicing medicine. Same here.Theft and poor judgement, certainly. But not practicing medicine.
From WA state law defining practice of medicine;
(2) Administers or prescribes drugs or medicinal preparations to be used by any other person;
I can neither confirm nor deny that back in the days before meds in the Pyxis and supplies in the Omnicell ... that Coworker A ever assisted Coworker B to be fit for duty by the start of shift ... KWIM?
In other words, OP, if you're going to go WAAAYY out of bounds - you better make sure that you have some backup. Assuming that the scenario described above does not fit into your current workplace culture ... you hung yourself out to dry.
One more thought ... I wouldn't advertise that skill of yours, of proficiency at IV access on yourself. Get me?
I have been going through some really stressful times - family wise. I was at work and I just felt lousy and dehydrated, so I gave myself a saline iv. I got caught, got fired and now they say they are going to report me to nc bon for practicing medicine without a license?????
1. Wowwie wow wow.
2. Why not call in for a sick & mental health day?
Many, many years ago, I tried working dialysis. Didn't like it and moved on after a very short time. At the time, we had to have monthly bloodwork for HepB. Several of the staff were teaching me how to draw my own bloodwork - I was getting pretty proficient at it. So that skill can be legitimate.......One more thought ... I wouldn't advertise that skill of yours, of proficiency at IV access on yourself. Get me?
This HAS been a FUN thread.
I sat in on 2 days of my state BoN and heard a ridiculous number of disciplinary cases. A nurse from the University hospital was in front of the board for taking zofran out of the pyxis and administering it IV to a co-worker. She got caught, not fired, got a letter of reprimand from the BoN and placed on probation. Hope this helps.
I sat in on 2 days of my state BoN and heard a ridiculous number of disciplinary cases. A nurse from the University hospital was in front of the board for taking zofran out of the pyxis and administering it IV to a co-worker. She got caught, not fired, got a letter of reprimand from the BoN and placed on probation. Hope this helps.
There's a really large assortment of threads here that discuss people worrying about losing their licenses ("loosing", but that's another story!)......and it seems that you practically have to kill someone--intentionally--in order for that to happen. I mean, how many times have we known of cases in which someone did something absolutely WAY outta line, WAY outta their scope, or WAY outta all common sense or care....and they get a reprimand.....or nothing.
I worked with someone who diverted (A LOT, eventually admitted to A LOT of theft and personal recreational drug use), got caught, got fired, and NOTHING happened concerning his license. We "heard" he had to do a drug rehab program, but we also knew he did not do it (dropped it after ONE day). And he kept his license. WTH?
Does anyone here know of an actual case (not heard about, someone-told-someone-who-told-me kind of thing) in which someone's unintentional misstep caused their license to be voided? Or an intentional action that did?
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using your first name (if indeed Ruby is your first name) on here is probably a bad idea as well.