Published Jul 24, 2014
FineAgain
372 Posts
Recently we have had an influx of transfers -- mostly from small outlying hospitals -- who arrive with a 24ga butterfly that is infusing fluids. We always have to restart them as it is against our policy. Butterflies are not meant to be used as an IV, unless I missed something?
I have also found that the patients complain of pain at the IV site. I also feel I should mention that the IVs are usually wrapped in half a mile of tape with gauze over it. Wondering if this is so I don't notice it is a butterfly??!!
Thoughts, comments?
Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN
20,908 Posts
You mean a real butterfly?
We used to use them all the time.....YEARS AGO....they are cheaper than angiocaths....if they are using them because of price then nursing is in sadder shape than I thought.
Yep, Esme, the very ones!
cayenne06, MSN, CNM
1,394 Posts
OMG, yes, we used to use butterflies for GBS prophylaxis when I worked at a birth center years and years ago. Definitely less than ideal. That little needle hurts when it is left in place, and it is way too easy to blow the vein.
Butterflies are much easier to start than angiocaths. But I have never seen them used for IV infusions in a hospital. That is kind of bizarre.
(I will admit though, I use butterflies for blood draws almost exclusively because it is so so much easier for me! Flashback for the win!)
TU RN, DNP, CRNA
461 Posts
I'm getting phlebitis just thinking about leaving a steel catheter in somebody's vein and then infusing fluids through it. Red Cross does this all the time with double red donations and I've seen more messed up arms after double reds than not = why I only donate one at a time. Keep the plasma, I'll keep my vasculature.
Carpediem1012, BSN, RN
315 Posts
And I was thinking of starting to donate blood! Yikes!
Don't let that dissuade you! I'm sure it's not 100% of the time with double red donations, but the process of donating two units at on a is different than donating one. In donating two (ie, "double red"), your blood and plasma are separated and the plasma is reinfused through the same catheter from which it was withdrawn. In my experience, this has led to more complications than your ordinary single unit donations.
Yeah we use them for blood draws -- ideal usage. But for infusion? No way. I keep meaning to bring it up at a staff meeting but it is always after a 12 hour night and I forget things.
iluvivt, BSN, RN
2,774 Posts
These an be used for short term infusions and it is often the device of choice for home care patients. Many patients and their caregivers will use a traditional butterfly to gain vascular access to administer various factors,IVIG,Glassia and many other IV drugs that are self administered. As far as the hospital setting goes a much safer choice is a catheter over needle design. I would do exactly what you are doing: resite with a CON device and then taking out the steel butterfly. I also noticed that you mentioned they come wrapped with a Kerlix type roll...it is NOT standard practice to wrap a peripheral IV site with a roller type bandage because it impedes visualization of the site,does not allow for timely assessment and can impede circulation.
poppycat, ADN, BSN
856 Posts
When I started practicing in 1978, this was standard for Peds patients. The hospitals I worked at didn't start using angiocaths for Peds IV therapy until about 1980.
ATLIEN
9 Posts
They do make butterfly iv start kits, aka scalp vein kits... in 18s, 20s and so on. These are good for people with fragile, superficial or in my experience, difficult veins. The actual needle is pulled, sheath remains. Just like a typical iv
Been there,done that, ASN, RN
7,241 Posts
Agree buttterflys should not be used for infusion.
However, what are you gonna do? Of course you need to remove the tape and gauze to view the insertion site...another reason to just restart . Any chance of administration communicating with these facilities... and requesting the correct standard of care?