on june 6 dos ammended their june visabulletin by adding a new category for nurses (schedule - a) and making it as 'current'. that means, all wait is over for nurses now and gates are re-opened officially on june 6th.
- update by nyrntx june 2005
update 2 : - for new comers
as the regular readers of allnurses.com know, this thread can be connsidered as the continuation of the thread "worst news for rns from india, phili..." (click here to view that thread : https://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87149). worst news thread was started when darkness and gloom hit intl. nurse community when dos announced (dec 11 2004) the retrogression for nurse immigration from these 3 countries.
If you go back and research some of the earlier posts on this thread, I stated that a very large amount of visas are being issued to nurses who enter the US, then apply for an adjustment of status. Everyone said that I wrong, and that it wasn't happening...............
And that whatever Shusterman et all said was the "golden word" and he knew much more than me. Now he is saying the exact thing that I was saying in the past, and none of you now want to believe him.
Don't you find that a little odd?
The nurses from the UK that you see posting often here, and are not covered under the retrogression, are taking two to three years before they get their green cards. So please do not think that things will happen overnight. It just doesn't work that way over here.
hi dale ,my idea of participating in this forum is to keep it alive ,and look what a fantastic response i got from you,if you want to learn you got to ask a lot of silly questions. i agree with your perceptions,keep it up ,please put in a more frequent input ,as soon as you get any illogical input eg shusterman 30000 per month ,congars and keep it up good day
[dear suzzane,we have always valued your seniority and views but this 30000 per month defies logic ,unless they are breaking the laww ,nurses are on track ,so nothing to worry on that account.good day ps just because you and shusterman have identical views does not justify his illogical views ,unless the DOS is processing illegally
hi dale another point the cot offs either 30 oct 2004(end of visa year) or 31 dec 2004 ( end of year ) OTHER NEED NOT WORRY WHY ( by the time your documents reach the embassy stage the dates would also move up to your dates ) BEST CASE SCENARIO ( all current on i july 2005) LETS WAIT AND WATCH good day
who taught you to write like this.................................who can read this??????---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHUSTERMAN TODAY
its same old news but again /must have some basis/nurses are on /rest are not/ makes u feel wanted / and why not / we have been at the receiving end for some time/ the SMARTEST LAW was that the VISAS WERE ONLY FOR NURSES //thank god //LIKE I SAID THESE AMERICANS AREV DAMM SMART // IT FEELS NICE TO KNOW WE HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGE //THNK U AMERICA WE WIL REMEMBER THIS AND PAY BACK WITH DEDICATION DILEGENCE AND WHAREVER ELSE IS EXPECTED OF US/A god bless america good day
[dear suzzane,we have always valued your seniority and views but this 30000 per month defies logic ,unless they are breaking the laww ,nurses are on track ,so nothing to worry on that account.good day ps just because you and shusterman have identical views does not justify his illogical views ,unless the DOS is processing illegally
For the past weeks everyone was stating how wonderful Shusterman and Murthy were, and that they had all of the answers and were privilege to much information from insiders. And they have been quoting him or someone from his office almost non-stop.
This week several of you are speaking completely different tunes. I wonder why?
I have been helping foreign nurses in the US for well over twenty years, so this is not something that I have just come up with. I have been thru several other shortages here.
And true, it is illegal for someone to come to the US on a toursit visa with the idea of getting work and staying, but it happens all off the time and quite frequently. And it will continue to do so...................
For the past weeks everyone was stating how wonderful Shusterman and Murthy were, and that they had all of the answers and were privilege to much information from insiders. And they have been quoting him or someone from his office almost non-stop.
This week several of you are speaking completely different tunes. I wonder why?
I have been helping foreign nurses in the US for well over twenty years, so this is not something that I have just come up with. I have been thru several other shortages here.
And true, it is illegal for someone to come to the US on a toursit visa with the idea of getting work and staying, but it happens all off the time and quite frequently. And it will continue to do so...................
Suzanne, I have to agree with you that it will not be done overnight.
I just cannot blame anyone who will post otherwise and are inclined in saying that "it will be done". Usually, we intend to agree more on the facts that will favor us. This is just one way of coping up, "defense mechanism" as we used to say.
Im just happy that we have a forum like this where we can occillate our thoughts and ventilate our feelings. Surely, these assure us that we are not alone.
Have a very strong feeling that the June 2005 visa bulletin will be ammended on June 1, 2005
Have visited the DOS site regularly and i just noticed something different in the current and archived bulletin. If you will notice, the June 2005 bulletin is already included in the "archived" list, meaning that they have "updated" the website. Have no scientific basis, but I think they will do it on June 1 2005. Check with web designers, that's how they update the website!
If you go back and research some of the earlier posts on this thread, I stated that a very large amount of visas are being issued to nurses who enter the US, then apply for an adjustment of status. Everyone said that I wrong, and that it wasn't happening...............
And that whatever Shusterman et all said was the "golden word" and he knew much more than me. Now he is saying the exact thing that I was saying in the past, and none of you now want to believe him.
Don't you find that a little odd?
The nurses from the UK that you see posting often here, and are not covered under the retrogression, are taking two to three years before they get their green cards. So please do not think that things will happen overnight. It just doesn't work that way over here.
Dear Suzzane:
Shusterman is not saying the exact thing that you said. There are two big statements that were different from Shusterman and yours. Shusterman only speaks of "EB3 now" and not nurses from Schedule A. I hope you see the difference??? In Shusterman's news ticker he mentioned that the USCIS is approving 30,000 Employment Visas per month based on AOS. Employment Based Visas covers everything from computer programmers, accountants, teachers, managers, nurses, pt's, scientists, researchers, artists, actors, sports players, models, a whole lot more and all of them. The cases that were on AOS are not only nurses...it covers all workers...So it simply means that Shusterman did not contradict his statements before with regards to nurses and pt's. And neither do I.
Shusterman only speaks EB3 were all workers are congested in this category. Since nurses would be pulled out of the EB3 category and would have a new category under Schedule A, by logic there would be less demand, less demand means less congestions...If you would sum it all...it means only one thing...processing would be faster for Schedule A and it would definitely eliminate retrogression for Schedule A only. That is the foremost intention of the US Congress when they recaptured the visas for nurses.
Though this would not be done overnight but this is a new law that we are talking about, a new law that favours only a small percentage of workers. And if they would shut down EB3 and start processing Schedule A...just imagine how fast it would be if they can process an average of 1,000 cases per day!!!
One more thing...the backlog elimination strategy of USCIS would surface on Fiscal year 2006. The US fiscal year 2006 would start on October 1, 2005. It means that by that time...they have almost cleared the backlog.
The nurses from UK that you were talking about you said they got their green card two/three years...What are they Adjustment of Status or Consular Processing? I think they are on AOS, because if you go on CP you could get your green card in a few months. AOS is also based on priority dates. So even they are not covered by retrogression they simply have to fall in line for their greencards.
In conclusion, Shusterman and I have never contradicted our statements. Schedule A would surely be current and retrogression would temporarily end.
For the past weeks everyone was stating how wonderful Shusterman and Murthy were, and that they had all of the answers and were privilege to much information from insiders. And they have been quoting him or someone from his office almost non-stop.
This week several of you are speaking completely different tunes. I wonder why?
I have been helping foreign nurses in the US for well over twenty years, so this is not something that I have just come up with. I have been thru several other shortages here.
And true, it is illegal for someone to come to the US on a toursit visa with the idea of getting work and staying, but it happens all off the time and quite frequently. And it will continue to do so...................
Dear Suzzane:
There is definitely no different tune. I am still singing and rocking the same old song I used to sing. Linkin' Park sings "It does not even matter"... It does not even matter how fast the USCIS is approving cases based on AOS, even they approved 100,000 visas per months...it does not even matter because there would be 50,000 visas that would be reserved for Schedule A. And as I have said earlier from my post...these cases that were being approved are not only Schedule A...they are all Employment Based visas...
The 50,000 visas for nurses has not yet been touched by anyone. So just brace yourselves for the ride.
And by the way you said that you've been helping nurses for twenty years...
Do you help nurses go for AOS on tourist visas? You have said that it happens. So I am sure you know alot and you have help a lot. Right? Hmmm. I hope you have read the provisions of the REAL ID ACT? It will be a matter of time before Customs Agents and Border Patrols catch and deport them.
The nurses from the UK that are on this forum and participate regularly are patiently waiting for their green cards in the UK. None of them have come over and filed an AOS.
It can just take quite awhile for things to get acted upon, even when there are no hold-ups in place.
I keep getting e-mails from nurses who think that they will get their green card and have it hand the day that everything resumes to normal and that just isn't the case. Or be in the US by August 1st. It just isn't going to happen.
I just don't want anyone quitting their jobs because their agency promised that they would be in the US within 6 weeks or so............and the newest contracts that have been sent to me promise a green card in four months.
We know that isn't going to happen.............. :) yet there are companies that are saying this and nurses are flocking to them...............?????
The nurses from the UK that are on this forum and participate regularly are patiently waiting for their green cards in the UK. None of them have come over and filed an AOS.
It can just take quite awhile for things to get acted upon, even when there are no hold-ups in place.
I keep getting e-mails from nurses who think that they will get their green card and have it hand the day that everything resumes to normal and that just isn't the case. Or be in the US by August 1st. It just isn't going to happen.
I just don't want anyone quitting their jobs because their agency promised that they would be in the US within 6 weeks or so............and the newest contracts that have been sent to me promise a green card in four months.
We know that isn't going to happen.............. :) yet there are companies that are saying this and nurses are flocking to them...............?????
I agree with you that they should only be quitting their jobs when they had their visas approved.
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suzanne4, RN
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If you go back and research some of the earlier posts on this thread, I stated that a very large amount of visas are being issued to nurses who enter the US, then apply for an adjustment of status. Everyone said that I wrong, and that it wasn't happening...............
And that whatever Shusterman et all said was the "golden word" and he knew much more than me. Now he is saying the exact thing that I was saying in the past, and none of you now want to believe him.
Don't you find that a little odd?
The nurses from the UK that you see posting often here, and are not covered under the retrogression, are taking two to three years before they get their green cards. So please do not think that things will happen overnight. It just doesn't work that way over here.