Bedpan? Why not a Poise pad?

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I work on a med/surge unit and all day long, men can lay in perfect comfort to urinate in a convenient urinal. But WOMEN with horrible injuries have to be rolled to the side in extreme pain then have to sit on a bedpan and basically pee all over themselves anyway. We even put paper chucks on TOP of the bed pans because the bedpan just sticks to their skin and we cant get it out especially with heavy women. For a women to pee, we easily will use 2 full chucks and if a drop of urine makes it way on to the sheets, we have to do a bed change too.

Please tell me why we just dont hand them a Poise pad or even a toddler's pampers diaper to urinate easily, cleanly and comfortably? I have used both in emergency situations and they work AMAZING!!! Why O why are we still using bedpans for women?!?!?!

I wish people in health care would stop calling ADULT briefs diapers, baby diapers, toddler diapers,

I was taught in CNA class to call them briefs or depends. Never diapers

AMEN! My thoughts exactly. It like telling your 95 year old patient to go PeePee. It is not age appropriate and that word has negative connotations. You are more likely to get a patient into said BRIEF if you call it such and not a diaper. Goes back to dignity.

Sorry off topic, but I had to agree.

When will someone invent a device that is for women what the condom catheter is for men? We have VC and angel funds investing billion$ every year in projects that go nowhere, like rockets that land themselves and Twitter Meets Myspace Meets Angry Birds apps, but this is a justice issue. Where is the Elon Musk working on a urine device for women? Hello? Bill Gates? Hillary Clinton? Anyone?

Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.
When will someone invent a device that is for women what the condom catheter is for men? We have VC and angel funds investing billion$ every year in projects that go nowhere, like rockets that land themselves and Twitter Meets Myspace Meets Angry Birds apps, but this is a justice issue. Where is the Elon Musk working on a urine device for women? Hello? Bill Gates? Hillary Clinton? Anyone?

I have seen something meant to act as a female's 'condom' catheter. It was a number of years ago. The one I saw had adhesive on the edges and played hell on pubic hair when removed, and it was kind of like a baggie but a little thicker.....but in no way sufficient to corral or contain enthusiastic or urgent urination. Plus, 'back-wash' at the crevice 'twixt the buttocks was always a problem.

Specializes in Post Anesthesia.
if a person has this many injuries, then you should be inserting a catheter.

As for poise pads vs bedpans, well the next time you need pee, use a diaper instead of a toilet and let us know the result

Inserting a catheter- what planet are you practicing on. Most of the docs I work with will not order a foley to save thier souls. No cost reimbursment if the 90y/o contracted debilitated patient ends up with a uti(not just for the uti-the entire stay can be denied for a uti) With the medicare anxiety over catheters, I bet I see less that 10 patients out of 100 with a foley post-op, and NEVER after 24hrs post op- I don't care if the patient had both legs and both buttocks surgicaly rearranged.

Specializes in Gerontology.
Inserting a catheter- what planet are you practicing on. Most of the docs I work with will not order a foley to save thier souls. No cost reimbursment if the 90y/o contracted debilitated patient ends up with a uti(not just for the uti-the entire stay can be denied for a uti) With the medicare anxiety over catheters, I bet I see less that 10 patients out of 100 with a foley post-op, and NEVER after 24hrs post op- I don't care if the patient had both legs and both buttocks surgicaly rearranged.

As the Op referred to fractured hips, not replaced hips, I assumed this was pre-surgical, not post.

NOADLS won't know the answer as NOADLS doesn't do bedpans.

I had to google that to see what you were talking about . . . . . and guess what? It came up on google as the second option.

:yes:

I guess I'm not sure why people are so weirded out at the thought of a female patient voiding into some kind of disposable brief/ pad.

I would assume the brief/ pad would be fitted over the perineal area (between the legs) at the time of voiding so it's not like the patient would just be going all over the bed.

The urine would simply be absorbed into the brief/ pad with no wet mess like with a bedpan. That sounds amazingly efficient and tidy to me, assuming the brief/ pad is fitted enough to the body and is absorbant enough.

I'd take that any day over a hard, cold, nasty bedpan!

And on a similar topic, why do so many hospitals still use plastic emesis basins that must be dumped and rinsed (which is gross and increases the risk of spreading contagions) instead of disposable emesis bags?

Specializes in hospice.
And on a similar topic, why do so many hospitals still use plastic emesis basins that must be dumped and rinsed (which is gross and increases the risk of spreading contagions) instead of disposable emesis bags?

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Ha...very succinct and very true.

Sorry can't seem to be able to quote when I am on my phone but to address just a few post up.

Ask a elder in a nursing home of fantastic it is to pee in a brief in their beds. Ask the CNAs how many times they have to change their sheets because of leakage and how often do these elders have skin issues and infections due to it.

Adult briefs are not that great at all to void into an entire bladder full. It will leak all over the place. Down their legs, might even puddle up their backs. They will be wetter them if the use something to void into.

My mother in law had to wear them and had bad incontinent problems. If she got up to go many times she had a wet butt and pee running down her legs and onto the floor. She wore two of the thickest poise pads with the brief to even catch everything do she would not have to change all the time.

I Also wore them for two weeks after a bad surgery and was home with a cath. Sometimes it would leak and it ran right down my leg because the end of the breif held nothing.

Bottom line is I do not think voiding into a brief in their beds is an answer to everyone's troubles. I feel it is wetter more unsanitary and even have more of a chance of getting pee all over the bed then voiding into some sort of container

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