so it seems like working in New Zealand as a nurse is much lower pay and lower standard of living than being a nurse in Australia or Canada.
So why would you (in my case) immigrate to New Zealand to study nursing there, get in debt, and work there oppose to doing so in Australia?
I love the weather, environment, and the idea of living in New Zealand but I am having second thoughts about it, realizing that I may be living in a poor standard of living trying to make it as a nurse and pay off school debt... Would I be better of immigrating to Australia and try to be a nurse there?
I love nursing and I wouldn't mind getting paid less to do so... but I am in dire need of money so I have to look at the financial aspect
plus what are my chances of getting hired after graduating from a NZ university in nursing and getting a job right away? Or getting a visa change from international student to working visa... is it fairly easy? possibly easier than Australia or Canada?
yes, I know the 10 year ban. That goes either way... now or later. Chances of getting deported is very low. Yes I can go to school legally, there's a law in California made to offer instate tuition to students like my self. I do attend school and do it legally... I have talked to lawyers, nothing really helps my situation except waiting for this bill to pass.
Going back to Korea wouldn't accomplish anything, I would have to at least attain a license to do so. It wouldn't go on my criminal record... it's a visa overstay but it wouldn't be "criminal. I would be immigrating from Korea to NZ,Oz or Canada, not from U.S. to those countries. So no, that's not the issue, you guys don't really seem to realize how immigration issue is in the states, it's a bit more complicated but trust me I KNOW all the issues involved. Asking me to go back to Korea is like asking you guys to move to India...
Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
OP I strongly suggest you speak to a lawyer that specialises in this area especially if under the age of 21. I am sure there is something that can be done about your status as you was brought to the US as a child.
Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.
He's stating his age at 22 SD.
For immigration you need a police clearance from countries where you lived, that's where I see the problems.
For your New Zealand idea, you need to contact the nursing council and see if you can transfer credits and if they can give some advise regarding studying, also suggest you look at embassy website regarding student/and/or immigration.
I don't know anything about immigration staus or requirements, or anything so you'll get nothing about that from me.
Here's what I will say - if you like NZ go there. The pay may be lower but so is the cost (though not the standard) of living. If youn decide you want to move to teh US you could always consider applying for NZ citizenship - we haqve reciprocity do you could move from there to here without any problem. At the very least, check out the difference in education costs between here and there and take it from there :)
Yes I can go to school legally, there's a law in California made to offer instate tuition to students like my self.
Now that peeves me - I am a legal immigrant, and I have to pay out of state tuition as long as I'm here, despite the fact that I work and pay taxes here. Yet an illegal overstayer gets to pay instate? Bugger. Looks like I did things the wrong way...
You cannot say that your chances of deportation are low - it all depends.
Given that, unlike you, I have actually navigated US immigration recently, I probably have a reasonably good idea of the issues.
Now that peeves me - I am a legal immigrant, and I have to pay out of state tuition as long as I'm here, despite the fact that I work and pay taxes here. Yet an illegal overstayer gets to pay instate? Bugger. Looks like I did things the wrong way...
You cannot say that your chances of deportation are low - it all depends.
Given that, unlike you, I have actually navigated US immigration recently, I probably have a reasonably good idea of the issues.
It may be easy for you to label me an "overstayer" but I grew up here since I was in 6th grade... California invested a lot of money educating me and it would be a shame for them to send me away... I have 4.0 gpa and I can really contribute to their nursing shortage, I am by all means American, just without paper...
Yes, I understand it isn't really fair but what happened is a product of my parent's mistake and desperation. We were poor enough and desperate enough that my parents decided that this will give us a better future, yes, that's how bad it was and still is. I just got evicted month ago and busted my college savings to move my family into an apartment, it's not an easy life.
I work and yes I pay taxes. I may work under different social or stuff (restaurants work that out) but tax is paid either way. Only people who grew up here and went to high school all four years qualify for instate tuition. The fact that U.S. government invested money education these high school kids is important enough for them to offer instate tuition.
nope, not possible, asked lawyers, talked to people, trust me...
it would have just been me going back to korea and never coming back. Which visa would I be approved of to come back to U.S.? I am dirt poor? lol, you think they'll say "oh you were nice enough to leave legally since your parents brought you here illegally, now let's take you in?"
It would have meant leaving my entire life behind and starting a new one in Korea... I am not sure if many 18 year olds can really handle that after growing up in a country with your family.
I'm pretty sure you've already had a consultation with more then just one lawyer. I empathize your situation and I know it's hard for you. I think Dream Act or immigration reform will pass. Hopefully sooner than later. The big problem is that you won't be able to obtain a license without a SSN. I don't know, maybe some states don't require SSN for obtaining a license. Then you need to take NCLEX there. It's important to get your license here in the States. Also, if you consider moving to another country as a backup plan, make sure you have your BSN first.
I'm pretty sure you've already had a consultation with more then just one lawyer. I empathize your situation and I know it's hard for you. I think Dream Act or immigration reform will pass. Hopefully sooner than later. The big problem is that you won't be able to obtain a license without a SSN. I don't know, maybe some states don't require SSN for obtaining a license. Then you need to take NCLEX there. It's important to get your license here in the States. Also, if you consider moving to another country as a backup plan, make sure you have your BSN first.
thanks for the advice! Problem is even with license I still need experience in order to immigrate as a nurse... I can't get a BSN because I can't get a license. Even if I have a BSN I would need experience to be a nurse in another country. It seems like I would have to transfer to a school in that country and graduate with their degree in order to work there as a nurse.
You can't get a license in California, but maybe in other states you can. You have to find out, and then you have to take NCLEX and apply for initial licensure in that state. Then you have to get BSN in that state too. Getting experience in not as important as getting a license and BSN. Just for your information, many Filipinos manage to get the US license without leaving Phillipines and without a SSN.
I think you can get licensed in Oregon without a SSN
You can't get a license in California, but maybe in other states you can. You have to find out, and then you have to take NCLEX and apply for initial licensure in that state. Then you have to get BSN in that state too. Getting experience in not as important as getting a license and BSN. Just for your information, many Filipinos manage to get the US license without leaving Phillipines and without a SSN.
I think you can get licensed in Oregon without a SSN
thank you!!! I researched and oregon, arizona and few other states gives you the license without SSN, just can't work with it.
well here's my issue... I will have license but no experience... what do I do with that? It is clear on new zealand and canadian nursing websites that experience of one year (minimum) is a must. Maybe I can pursue BSN... but that's out of state tuition, tons of money to study outside of California for me... I will graduate and again, no experience... if nothing passes (dream act doesn't pass, if) then I still can't immigrate to another country because I don't have experience. Wouldn't I be better off getting my ASN and license and going to RN to BSN program in canada? I saw some online.
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yes, I know the 10 year ban. That goes either way... now or later. Chances of getting deported is very low. Yes I can go to school legally, there's a law in California made to offer instate tuition to students like my self. I do attend school and do it legally... I have talked to lawyers, nothing really helps my situation except waiting for this bill to pass.
Going back to Korea wouldn't accomplish anything, I would have to at least attain a license to do so. It wouldn't go on my criminal record... it's a visa overstay but it wouldn't be "criminal. I would be immigrating from Korea to NZ,Oz or Canada, not from U.S. to those countries. So no, that's not the issue, you guys don't really seem to realize how immigration issue is in the states, it's a bit more complicated but trust me I KNOW all the issues involved. Asking me to go back to Korea is like asking you guys to move to India...
Can we talk about being a nurse in NZ ????