Australia versus New Zealand

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so it seems like working in New Zealand as a nurse is much lower pay and lower standard of living than being a nurse in Australia or Canada.

So why would you (in my case) immigrate to New Zealand to study nursing there, get in debt, and work there oppose to doing so in Australia?

I love the weather, environment, and the idea of living in New Zealand but I am having second thoughts about it, realizing that I may be living in a poor standard of living trying to make it as a nurse and pay off school debt... Would I be better of immigrating to Australia and try to be a nurse there?

I love nursing and I wouldn't mind getting paid less to do so... but I am in dire need of money so I have to look at the financial aspect :(

plus what are my chances of getting hired after graduating from a NZ university in nursing and getting a job right away? Or getting a visa change from international student to working visa... is it fairly easy? possibly easier than Australia or Canada?

Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.
nope, my status here in the u.s. does not affect my chance of immigrating else where, already confirmed with lawyers, etc. deportation will affect me but not if i leave voluntarily.

did they tell you how to get a police certificate when you are illegal? because you will need one for immigration.

there is no "returning..." even after 10 year ban they won't let me back in, it's not likely. my best chance is to wait and see if this law is going to pass next year. leaving right now before the law even comes up to be voted would be foolish. there's a 50/50 chance that comprehensive immigration may pass. on top of that, i can technically get sponsored, my application for legal status is pending, so i am not 100 percent illegal,

how many % are you legal then??

5cats

Specializes in Critical Care.

police report would be from Korea...

overstaying visa is not a crime but a civil disobedience, not in the criminal record unless I get deported.

I have cleared it with a lawyer, my overstayed visa presence here does not affect immigrating to another country since I am applying from Korea not U.S. I would have to go back to Korea first then apply to another country, my status in U.S. has nothing to do with it. This is a fact...

it's a different country... overstaying a visa isn't an issue to another country... especially in my case when I GREW UP HERE. Don't you get it? I grew up here since I was sixth grade? I could be your classmate, your next door neighbor, your childhood friend and you would never even know it! Shoot, most of us didn't even know we were "illegal" till our parents told us when we turned 18. It's not even our fault... have some mercy people. By a stroke of luck you could be in my shoes, just because of the parents that you have. I have a flipping 3.9 gpa in my college and worked my butt off and I work and PAY TAXES. I worked harder than any of my friends just to be where I am today, wiping tables at restaurants and studying all day and night for nursing school. You could have been in my shoes... if you just happened to be born to a wrong parents... would you have gone back and left the country that you grew up in and called "home?" Gone back to what? Country you haven't been in for a decade since you were a child and have no future in? Haha... go back... easy for you to say...

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

you need to state where you have lived and you have lived in the us therefore you have to provide a police certificate. if you do not it is classed as fraud and will severely affect your chances

this is what it states on the canada cic website

who needs a police certificate?

in general, you and everyone in your family who is 18 years of age or over need to obtain a police certificate. you must obtain a police certificate from each country or territory where you have lived for six consecutive months or longer since reaching the age of 18.

the certificate must have been issued no more than three months before you submit your application.

if the original certificate is neither in english nor in french, submit both the certificate and the original copy of a translation prepared by an accredited translator with your application.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp

She will be able to get a certificate. Why you've decided she won't? Thousands of people who overstayed their visa in the US were able to emigrate to Canada successfully. FBI and police don't care if you were legal or not. They just match a name and fingerprints against their databases and if there is no record, that what all they print "No record".

there's a program in University of Health Science of Oregon, it's a online course so I can stay in California and still do it online. Linfield also has one online and they are all roughly 420dollar per credit.

You are on the right track. Just before graduation your school will be asking in which state you plan to get your license. Inform them it will be Oregon (or any other state of your choice), then obtain an authorization to sit for NCLEX from that state. Pass NCLEX, get a license, apply for BSN program. When you graduate either some new law here in the US will pass and you will be able to stay, or you will be able to emigrate to Canada or Australia with your BSN.

Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.
She will be able to get a certificate. Why you've decided she won't? Thousands of people who overstayed their visa in the US were able to emigrate to Canada successfully. FBI and police don't care if you were legal or not. They just match a name and fingerprints against their databases and if there is no record, that what all they print "No record".

You need a valid SSN, at least in the state of California to get one.

5cats

Specializes in Critical Care.
You are on the right track. Just before graduation your school will be asking in which state you plan to get your license. Inform them it will be Oregon (or any other state of your choice), then obtain an authorization to sit for NCLEX from that state. Pass NCLEX, get a license, apply for BSN program. When you graduate either some new law here in the US will pass and you will be able to stay, or you will be able to emigrate to Canada or Australia with your BSN.

that's most likely what I am going to do... problem is if no law passes it will be tough immigrating due to lack of experience... I will have to get that experience one way or another. Plus In two years I will have to go to the Korean army for their mandatory draft (conscription) so that will shave 2 years off, hopefully I can enlist as a medic or something so I can keep my knowledge current. and get some experience in Korea as a nurse then immigrate.

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
She will be able to get a certificate. Why you've decided she won't? Thousands of people who overstayed their visa in the US were able to emigrate to Canada successfully. FBI and police don't care if you were legal or not. They just match a name and fingerprints against their databases and if there is no record, that what all they print "No record".

But they indicate that the police certificate will be from Korea not from the US and that is what I was replying to.

She was a child when she left Korea, so the police certificate from there won't be required.

You need a valid SSN, at least in the state of California to get one.

5cats

I don't believe that you need a SSN for police(FBI) name/fingerprint check. Please provide a link to any document to support your statement.

Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.

Not for the FBi, but for the state and canadian immigration wants both.

5cats

Do you realize that there are people who live here absolutely legally for years, but don't have a SSN? So, according to you, they won't be able a get a police clearance certificate? I don't think so.

In fact, here is the reference to the Office of the Attorney General's website and there is nothing about providing a SSN there.

http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/visaimmigration.php

There is a field for a SSN in the application, but it does not says it's mandatory. The same is for the DL. Simply because people may not have them. Period.

In fact, the only mandatory fields are listed in the Instructions for Visa/Immigration Request Form and they are:

Type of Application, Reason for Application, Name of Applicant & Personal Descriptors - "Name, date of birth, and sex are mandatory fields and must be provided. All others are optional" Applicant Address, Daytime Telephone Number.

http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/forms/fingerprinting_visa_immigration_info.pdf

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