Australia versus New Zealand

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so it seems like working in New Zealand as a nurse is much lower pay and lower standard of living than being a nurse in Australia or Canada.

So why would you (in my case) immigrate to New Zealand to study nursing there, get in debt, and work there oppose to doing so in Australia?

I love the weather, environment, and the idea of living in New Zealand but I am having second thoughts about it, realizing that I may be living in a poor standard of living trying to make it as a nurse and pay off school debt... Would I be better of immigrating to Australia and try to be a nurse there?

I love nursing and I wouldn't mind getting paid less to do so... but I am in dire need of money so I have to look at the financial aspect :(

plus what are my chances of getting hired after graduating from a NZ university in nursing and getting a job right away? Or getting a visa change from international student to working visa... is it fairly easy? possibly easier than Australia or Canada?

that's most likely what I am going to do... problem is if no law passes it will be tough immigrating due to lack of experience... I will have to get that experience one way or another. Plus In two years I will have to go to the Korean army for their mandatory draft (conscription) so that will shave 2 years off, hopefully I can enlist as a medic or something so I can keep my knowledge current. and get some experience in Korea as a nurse then immigrate.

Experience is as important for immigration purposes as you may think. It's nice if you have it, but the only absolute requirement is the education. Look how many Filipinos on this forum managed to migrate without even a day of experience under the belt.

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She was a child when she left Korea, so the police certificate from there won't be required.

I am aware of that but if you read their post (37) they indicate that the police certificate will come from Korea. That is what I was correcting them on. Most countries require a police certificate from every country they have lived in over the age of 18 for more than 6 months and if the police certificate indicates that they are in the country illegally then they are setting themselves to be deported quicker than being caught on the streets.

I see big problems in gaining RN experience because from my understanding on reading several forums when a subject like this comes up, plus talking to my US friends that employers ask for proof that you can legally work in the country and must show SSN

Whatever happens I hope the OP can get sorted and I know it isn't their fault that they are in the country illegally because they was brought there as a child but many countries are having a rough time and clamping down on stuff

I don't understand what you are talking about. She came to the U.S. when she was a 6th grader.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp

You must obtain a police certificate from each country or territory where you have lived for six consecutive months or longer since reaching the age of 18.
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police report would be from Korea...

This is their post that indicates that their police certificate/report will be from Korea

I don't understand what you are talking about. She came to the U.S. when she was a 6th grader.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp

They indicate that they will be getting their police report from Korea which will not be of any use because they hasn't lived in the country since they was a child. They need to get a US police report/certificate which may cause an issue if the police is working along side with immigration/ICE and this may happen (not saying it will but may cause a red flag).

The cost of living in New Zealand is a lot more than Australia. Wages for nurses are less in New Zealand than Australia. I have lived in both countries and by far Australia offered a better standard of living.

You won't get a job in either country as an RN with absolutely no experience.

It's so nice to see a thread which could relate to my dilemma right now, i hope you could provide me a solution concerning my problem. As Ive stated earlier to my latest post im confuse which country should i pursue is it on NZ or Australia..what are the necessary facts that i opt to know and learn before picking. I already my IELTS all 7.0 , more than 1 year worked experience as a staff nurse in a 300 govt. capacity and also NCLEX from California. Pls help me with this one..since you already tried on how to live and work to the aforementioned countries. Thanks in advance

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The cost of living in New Zealand is a lot more than Australia. Wages for nurses are less in New Zealand than Australia.
Well, that is a fairly sucky combination - no wonder I work with half a dozen kiwis!

so you're saying that australia is a way to far a good choice against NZ? bec. of the compensation doesnt equate all the nurses's expenses? and what about NZ to australia? is it true that if youre already a RN in NZ you be easily absorb to australia?

It's so nice to see a thread which could relate to my dilemma right now, i hope you could provide me a solution concerning my problem. As Ive stated earlier to my latest post im confuse which country should i pursue is it on NZ or Australia..what are the necessary facts that i opt to know and learn before picking. I already my IELTS all 7.0 , more than 1 year worked experience as a staff nurse in a 300 govt. capacity and also NCLEX from California. Pls help me with this one..since you already tried on how to live and work to the aforementioned countries. Thanks in advance

Hate to break it you but NCLEX is only worth anything in the US. The rest of the world has their own regulations and exams.

thanks for the reply.. i know my situation regarding my NCLEX thaT's why im planning to have another route by heading to other countries like NZ and Australia while waiting for my papers in US to come. I know that it would take ages to have my visa since retro and recession are still rampant nowadays.

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The recession is pretty much officially over here - interest rates and house prices have already started to rise

there's a program in University of Health Science of Oregon, it's a online course so I can stay in California and still do it online. Linfield also has one online and they are all roughly 420dollar per credit.

You say you can stay in California and still take the online courses. Where are you going to do the clinical component of the program? You have to be licensed in the state you plan to do the clinical component. You said you can't be licensed in California and if you look at the Oregon Board of Nursing website you will see that it requires a SSN as well. If you tried to be licensed as a foreign nurse trained in the US, you will have to produce documents from Immigration stating you have the right to work in US. Which leads to the question, why would you get into a program knowing you wouldn't be able to get licensed at the end of it? I'm pretty sure there was another person on a waiting list somewhere that could have completed the program and actually get licensed when they were finish.

As far as gaining employment and getting experience, unless your immigration issues are settled that's not going to happen. Federal law requires all employers (I realize some mom and pop stores, restaurants, etc. are not doing this) to fill out an I-9 form on all employees. This form requires 2 valid forms of id proving you are either a natural US citizen or you have a work visa from immigration.

And why I am on a rant, you stated previously in one of your threads that you indeed did work and that taxes were being paid. How exactly are you filing federal income taxes without a SSN or immigration id?

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