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[KalipsoRed21, BSN, RN]

Today I asked for help for my clinic. My normal supervisor and manager weren't in. So I sent my request up the chain because we are like a week behind. 
 

Management came back with a "I need to delegate better, you have plenty of staff today" response. I responded that we do have adequate staffing today, but we haven't for 4 days, and I would like to get caught up.

Then management came back with...in writing “…we need everyone to work together and not start with the mentality that it is impossible.” 
And then I went off, because THAT statement is condescending. So I told her, in writing, that statement was a poor ASSumption on her part. Just like that. 
Then she went off about how I'm not going to be disrespectful to her and I was like ditto sweetheart. Then she told me I wasn't going to get anywhere with that attitude. ? I said great! I'm not trying to get anywhere. I have absolutely NO desire to go up the chain. I just wanted to get caught up. Don't be condescending and not expect me not to go off. Just say you don't have any god damn staff to spare today, do the best you can. ***ing managerial ***es. 

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

I think you shot yourself in the foot. If you feel the need to move on, you will not get a reference  after calling that manager an ***.

[KalipsoRed21, BSN, RN]

Been there,done that said:

I think you shot yourself in the foot. If you feel the need to move on, you will not get a reference  after calling that manager an ***.

I have been able to walk out off a job twice with no notice, and get another one within a week without any issue and telling them that I walked off. Everyone is so desperate for nurses that you barely need a reference. 

[KalipsoRed21, BSN, RN]

Been there,done that said:

I think you shot yourself in the foot. If you feel the need to move on, you will not get a reference  after calling that manager an ***.

Also, respect goes both ways. She didn't throw a cuss word at me, but condescending statements don't require cuss words to be just as disrespectful as a cuss word. Just because I called out her *** behavior using an actual cuss word does not make her more "professional". It just makes her a more deceitful person if you ask me. 
 

Management can tell me no one is available and you need to do the best you can. But they sure as *** are not going to talk down to me and tell me that the impossible is possible if I just believe it hard enough. Respect goes both ways. I didn't lie to you when I asked for help, you don't lie to me and tell me if I just cross my fingers and wish upon a star you bet I have enough people to get caught up today. 
 

*you being a generalized term and not indicating any single person posting.

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

I'm sorry I commented.  Your anger is overflowing.

[KalipsoRed21, BSN, RN]

Been there,done that said:

I'm sorry I commented.  Your anger is overflowing.

 

 

? I do hope you read that the term you in my response was a generalized you and not intended to be personalized? You as in any person, not you a poster. 
 

I am not angry. I will not tolerate lies and disrespect regardless of the title or alphabet after someone's name. I may not be eloquent, but there is no doubt what I mean when I communicate.

[vintagegal, BSN, DNP, RN, NP]

You can't assist anyone who doesn't want the help.

[brandy1017, ASN, RN]

You come across as angry.  Your posts have had an angry tone for a long time regarding general understaffing issues at this job and other personal frustrations of trying to balance motherhood with a full-time job.  With this latest interaction with management it almost looks like you are daring them to fire you.  If you feel this way, and being angry and unhappy with the job, wouldn't it make more sense to look for another one before it comes to that.   All the stress and anger is not good for your health or mental well-being.

I left my toxic job and took early retirement due to the stress, unsafe staffing and disrespect from management and while it was, of course, a pay cut and I have to live frugally now I don't regret it at all!  To go from 100% stress to virtually none improved my physical and mental health.  I love not having to be part of a company I don't respect myself that is morally bankrupt see the NYTimes expose re Ascension last year.  I no longer have to deal with their lies, condescension, disrespect and attempts to fire the older staff during covid when our lives were on the line.  I'm glad I took my power back.  

You might feel better if you made a decision to walk away vs having a show down at the OK corral, pun intended.  Just a thought.

 

[mdsRN2005, ASN, BSN, RN]

You were not wrong to request help to get caught up.  However, your attitude appears to be horrible and if you really spoke to your manager the way you wrote here, I'm very surprised she didn't fire you on the spot.  Yes, her reply was unhelpful and condescending.  But as professionals we should be able to handle such conflicts in a diplomatic, professional way without losing our cool, calling names, or cursing.  There is no excuse for such behavior.  I would not tolerate it in one of my children, let alone an adult professional employee.  The fact that you've walked off two previous jobs is equally concerning.  I'd do some serious soul searching and hopefully get professional help for anger management before allowing my temper to ruin my career.  Also FYI - when you act like that, any message you may be trying to convey gets lost in the yelling/cursing/temper fit.  As opposed to maintaining a professional tone (and volume) and choosing your words carefully), then the conversation gets to be about your actual point, not the way you are acting.  Hope you take this and think it over.  

[sf49er008, BSN, RN]

I love that you stood up for yourself! Maybe you were a bit aggressive, but we should never allow others to walk all over us. Admin/management tends to think we're a dime a dozen, but they forget that we are highly educated, can go anywhere and do anything. If we don't like a job, we can put in a two week resignation letter have have a job lined up by the end of the day.

[brandy1017, ASN, RN]

I just have one thought did you get extra help because JACHO is supposed to be coming around?  It's common for a lot of places to up the staffing just in time for JACHO than cut back after they leave.

[CrunchRN, ADN, RN]

Did you get help/more staffing?