Aspiring Christian & Nursing student

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

Im sorry if you interpreted anything ive said as passive agressive definitely not my intent.

[vetpharmtech]

1 hour ago, Banana nut said:

Im sorry if you interpreted anything ive said as passive agressive definitely not my intent.

I cannot tell whether you are sincere or you only do this for damage control. Your words seem to be louder than your thought.

Regardless, there is no need to apologize. You are a Christian. Witnessing whenever to whoever is what a Christian does. I have accepted the fact that Christians can never respect other people's personal boundary. That is the nature of their faith.

I could have chosen to ignore your posts, but I made a decision to respond, so I have to deal with your behavior resulted from your religion. That is just the way it is.

Because I am very fortunate immigrating to Northern California, I don't deal with people like you on a daily basis. I did in the past, but it was not so excessively unbearable.

You live your faith, and that is how it is. You are free to violate my personal boundary about religion, but I don't have to respect your witness testimony.

I would rather see you show your honesty this way than offer a damage control apology. A honest enemy is better than a lying friend.

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

I don't want to be anyones enemy, I'm not lying and I'm not trying to convert anyone. I just enjoy making people that are hurting feel loved and cared for when I'm in the hospital. Nobody needs to be Christian to feel loved and i honestly don't use that word in any conversation i have with my patients when providing care. It's just not necessary. I have a heart for helping people who are hurting that's really it. Im not trying to be dishonest or passive agressive in any of my posts. I do not say passive aggressive things, I am a very direct person. If we met in person this conversation would 100% not ever come up because it's just not necessary...

[caliotter3]

That's right, it's just not necessary... It would be nice if religion would not be argued on this site that is supposed to be about nursing.

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

20 minutes ago, caliotter3 said:

That's right, it's just not necessary... It would be nice if religion would not be argued on this site that is supposed to be about nursing.

I completely agree. Expressing a belief or reason for being a nurse should not be construed as picking a fight.

[vetpharmtech]

1 hour ago, caliotter3 said:

That's right, it's just not necessary... It would be nice if religion would not be argued on this site that is supposed to be about nursing.

I wish that was the case, but it is not the reality unfortunately.

[heron, ASN, RN]

45 minutes ago, vetpharmtech said:

I wish that was the case, but it is not the reality unfortunately.

I agree. It’s especially disheartening when members insist on hijacking threads that have nothing to do with their own self-described religious tradition.

[vetpharmtech]

7 hours ago, Banana nut said:

I don't want to be anyones enemy, I'm not lying and I'm not trying to convert anyone. I just enjoy making people that are hurting feel loved and cared for when I'm in the hospital. Nobody needs to be Christian to feel loved and i honestly don't use that word in any conversation i have with my patients when providing care. It's just not necessary. I have a heart for helping people who are hurting that's really it. Im not trying to be dishonest or passive agressive in any of my posts. I do not say passive aggressive things, I am a very direct person. If we met in person this conversation would 100% not ever come up because it's just not necessary...

You add too many qualifiers. I don't know why you feel the need to do that. I am an immigrant, and English is not my first language, but I can comprehend enough what you tried to tell me. I should have the option to have my own opinion whether or not I agree with your qualifying statements. Telling me how great you are is not going to earn my sympathy. This is an online environment. I don't easily trust people who catch fish with both hands.

The person you need to direct this post to is GrumpyRN. You downvoted his post when he simply stated the fact. You also mocked his username simply because he expressed a factual statement.

He is the one you should justify to if you think you need to say something. I am not that person. Sorry.

If you and I live in the same state or meet in person, I would walk away from you the moment you invoke your divine calling when we discuss history. I don't like to be a soapbox for Christians to do testimony whether or not they have an intent to convert me. When your words and your action are in conflict, I take your action as the indicator of your intent.

I am sorry for being abrasive to you, but I am tired with word game. The only reason I responded is that you specifically addressed me in your statements. Otherwise, I would not care.

[GrumpyRN, NP]

14 hours ago, Banana nut said:

I don't want to be anyones enemy, I'm not lying and I'm not trying to convert anyone. I just enjoy making people that are hurting feel loved and cared for when I'm in the hospital. Nobody needs to be Christian to feel loved and i honestly don't use that word in any conversation i have with my patients when providing care. It's just not necessary.

That is good, the basis of nursing - make people feel cared for. ?

(No sarcasm implied or intended)

10 hours ago, caliotter3 said:

That's right, it's just not necessary... It would be nice if religion would not be argued on this site that is supposed to be about nursing.

This is the spirituality forum and the original post was from a christian nurse who wanted to be a better christian and stated "I have yet to develop a connection with God." Unfortunately some assumptions were made during the conversation that I disagreed with.

10 hours ago, Banana nut said:

I completely agree. Expressing a belief or reason for being a nurse should not be construed as picking a fight.

Absolutely! You have the right to believe what you wish without being attacked for it. (Unless it is hate speech).

8 hours ago, heron said:

I agree. It’s especially disheartening when members insist on hijacking threads that have nothing to do with their own self-described religious tradition.

Happens all the time Heron, never going to change it as it is an emotive subject. I have tried to post only relevant points but sometimes they can be taken out of context. My apologies if I have been perceived to be guilty of hijacking.

7 hours ago, vetpharmtech said:

The person you need to direct this post to is GrumpyRN. You downvoted his post when he simply stated the fact. You also mocked his username simply because he expressed a factual statement.

He is the one you should justify to if you think you need to say something. I am not that person. Sorry.

No, I am not overly bothered about this. I posted an article which showed how things are done in the UK and it is up to the reader to decide upon their actions from then on. A sensible debate is always good but name calling and general abuse is counterproductive. As most on this site know I am atheist but I am neither militant nor aggressive. I have a very much live and let live outlook on religion - you do your thing and leave me alone and as long as your life style is not infringing upon me then I don't really care.

[heron, ASN, RN]

@Grumpy: (didn’t want to quote the whole post) I wasn’t referring to you. We have a member who joins every single thread mentioning Christianity (and has even started at least two) for the sole purpose of picking a fight.

I have found your posts effective at calling out assumptions without attacking or bashing anyone. Wish more of us knew how to do that.

[vetpharmtech]

4 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

That is good, the basis of nursing - make people feel cared for. ?

(No sarcasm implied or intended)

This is the spirituality forum and the original post was from a christian nurse who wanted to be a better christian and stated "I have yet to develop a connection with God." Unfortunately some assumptions were made during the conversation that I disagreed with.

Absolutely! You have the right to believe what you wish without being attacked for it. (Unless it is hate speech).

Happens all the time Heron, never going to change it as it is an emotive subject. I have tried to post only relevant points but sometimes they can be taken out of context. My apologies if I have been perceived to be guilty of hijacking.

No, I am not overly bothered about this. I posted an article which showed how things are done in the UK and it is up to the reader to decide upon their actions from then on. A sensible debate is always good but name calling and general abuse is counterproductive. As most on this site know I am atheist but I am neither militant nor aggressive. I have a very much live and let live outlook on religion - you do your thing and leave me alone and as long as your life style is not infringing upon me then I don't really care.

You are a noble person and a caring nurse. Unfortunately, someone in this forum is willing to downvote your post and makes fun of your username simply because you have a sensible opinion. His nerve was hit harder than mine.

I admire you for letting it go. You are more zen than I am. I am unfortunately not like you. That is why working with animal patients keeps me sane ?

Keep being a good atheist. Keep being grumpy ? if you need to. There is nothing wrong with expressing your feelings. Nurses are among the most hard working and perhaps the least appreciative professionals in medicine.

[Kooky Korky, BSN, RN]

On 2/10/2019 at 8:44 AM, traumaRUs said:

Nursing has taught me the frailty of life....how you can be going along and have something horrendous happen that changes your entire future.

In this way it has brought me closer to God.

As a much younger person when I entered Nursing more than 40 years ago, the serious suffering, especially of children, that I saw scared me. Over the decades, though, as I grew in maturity as a Christian and as a nurse, I somehow am not as upset about it.

I am more philosophical about life, suffering. People ask "Why me" but I think the real issue is why not me? No one escapes all suffering. Some have it much harder than others, but we all have some problems.

I still don't like to see people suffering, of course, and don't like it when it happens to me or my loved ones. But I have figured out that there often are just no reasons, no explanations for suffering. I don't know why God causes it or allows it, but there it is. So all I can figure is that we live in a world full of sin and sinners and there's no getting away from it, so I have to reconcile myself to it.

I hope for OP that she will find her path, be it Nursing or something else. God will never fail you nor forsake you, OP (or anyone else) and He loves you, despite all the misery and puzzlement in this life.