Wow, I know teachers work hard and put in long hours but this guy thinks teachers deserve a much higher salary than a ASN nurse. What do you think 2-year degree/all nurses? Please let me know your thoughts. I was outraged, not that teachers dont deserve the $50 per hour, but that he thinks it should be so much more than a nurse. Here's his post as it appears in the newspaper:
None said...
As long as we in the USA supports the mentality of sgt's comment and not Teufel's comments inferences, we will have second rate schools. A true blue, quality teacher should be very well paid. They are in a profession (male or female as a teacher) as in 'a woman's work is never done syndrome'/they work at home, summers, all the time preparing for their students, enquiring, mentally and physically/actually; teaching is only the significant/weekday part of their work. Persons with an AS degree in nursing as a travel nurse can make as much as $35.00 an hour. 'Comparatively', Teachers, perhaps, should make at least 50 dollars an hour, and would still be under paid, given what CEO's, for example, make, if one were to compare them to the salaries and bonuses of Wall Street executives and so many other so called business professions and THEY have never learned basic 'lessons'! You know exactly what I mean sgt. So stop bellyaching and go pay your taxes with glee. Don Beattie in Winthrop, Me.
" Persons with an AS degree in nursing as a travel nurse can make as much as $35.00 an hour."
*** $35 and hour? Ha! I wouldn't put my pants on as a staff nurse for only $35 and hour. I wouldn't do travel nursing for less than $40 and then only if it was in a place I wanted to go to. For any place else $45 minimum.
Don't know where that writer is located but he is ignorant of what nurses get paid here in my part the upper mid west where new ADN grads start out at >$30/hour.
I've been working as an RN for 2 years and I definitely don't make that kind of money!! I make 22/hr. I'm a BSN prepared nurse and work in an ICU. I live on the east coast.
I've been working as an RN for 2 years and I definitely don't make that kind of money!! I make 22/hr. I'm a BSN prepared nurse and work in an ICU. I live on the east coast.
I googled Don Beattie in Winthrop, Maine in order to get some perspective on his comments. It may seem like an insult to you, but I believe Mr. Beattie was merely advocating for higher pay for teachers, not saying that nurses don't deserve theirs. According to some of the other hits I got, apparently he is a 75 year old gentleman who is an education historian. He sounds pretty interesting.
Virginia. And yes really, it's horrible. It amazes me when I see all the posts with RNs making 30 an hour partly bc a co-worker of mine has been a RN for at least 25 years and she only makes about 32 an hour.
Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I've been working as an RN for 2 years and I definitely don't make that kind of money!! I make 22/hr. I'm a BSN prepared nurse and work in an ICU. I live on the east coast.
*** Great quality of life here in the upper Midwest and decent RN pay. Of course we do have winter. I kinda like as it keeps a lot of riff-raff away. Your BSN won't get you paid any more than an ADN but your two years of ICU experience might.
GOOD teachers should be well paid, but there is too little accountability in teaching. Also they have much better pensions and survivor's pensions than any nurse will ever see. In fact they have better benefits across the board. Then they work day shift hours, have weekends, holidays and summers off. Comparing their salaries to nursing is apples to oranges.
Completely agree. In my opinion working the night shift completely sucks, and thats what many (especially new) nurses have to do, and what (new or otherwise) teachers never have to do... so yeah I think nurses deserve some compensation.....
I haven't heard of any teachers having to work the night shift on a Christmas or Thanksgiving....
Wow, I know teachers work hard and put in long hours but this guy thinks teachers deserve a much higher salary than a ASN nurse. What do you think 2-year degree/all nurses? Please let me know your thoughts. I was outraged, not that teachers dont deserve the $50 per hour, but that he thinks it should be so much more than a nurse. Here's his post as it appears in the newspaper:
None said...
As long as we in the USA supports the mentality of sgt's comment and not Teufel's comments inferences, we will have second rate schools. A true blue, quality teacher should be very well paid. They are in a profession (male or female as a teacher) as in 'a woman's work is never done syndrome'/they work at home, summers, all the time preparing for their students, enquiring, mentally and physically/actually; teaching is only the significant/weekday part of their work. Persons with an AS degree in nursing as a travel nurse can make as much as $35.00 an hour. 'Comparatively', Teachers, perhaps, should make at least 50 dollars an hour, and would still be under paid, given what CEO's, for example, make, if one were to compare them to the salaries and bonuses of Wall Street executives and so many other so called business professions and THEY have never learned basic 'lessons'! You know exactly what I mean sgt. So stop bellyaching and go pay your taxes with glee. Don Beattie in Winthrop, Me.
September 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM
I think what 'none' forgets is that teachers:
do NOT work holidays, evenings, weekends, or nights .....or summers (generally speaking)
I do hope this man is not a teacher, he can't seem to communicate a simple thought. This is comparing apples and oranges. Before I went to nursing school, I worked as a teacher for 11 years. I can sympathize with teachers, and I do believe they are not paid enough, and unfortunatly never will be. The simple fact is that they are public employees and subject to the whims and politics of the government and often the voters who vote down bond issues for pay raises. Healthcare is, in most cases, driven by the free market system in which hospitals have come to understand, among other things, that if they want a quality workforce, they have to pay for it.
Teachers are NOT underpaid! Public school teachers make very good money, plus generous pensions and free (or nearly-free) health insurance for life.
Nonsense. Health insurance alone cannot be managed on that scale. My mother was a unionized public school teacher for her entire working life. At the time of her retirement in 1982, she made $18,000 per year. She had an okay pension through the state, but not so good that she didn't need her Social Security benefit. Her health insurance through the union made partial contributions for hospitalizations only. The rest of her medical insurance was Medicare and a Medicare D plan that she had to pay for. Her benefits were still a reflection of the salad days of collective bargaining, as well. It's inconceivable that teachers today would be getting better than that.
I wonder why nobody brought this point up. But a nursing degree is consider a much harder degree to obtain than an elementary education degree. True It might take longer to achieve, but there are other factors to consider.
Who is it that considers a nursing degree harder to achieve than a degree in education? What are the other factors? For whom are you speaking?
Nonsense. Health insurance alone cannot be managed on that scale. My mother was a unionized public school teacher for her entire working life. At the time of her retirement in 1982, she made $18,000 per year. She had an okay pension through the state, but not so good that she didn't need her Social Security benefit. Her health insurance through the union made partial contributions for hospitalizations only. The rest of her medical insurance was Medicare and a Medicare D plan that she had to pay for. Her benefits were still a reflection of the salad days of collective bargaining, as well. It's inconceivable that teachers today would be getting better than that.
According to recent stories in the New York Times and the Boston Globe, retired teachers today have much more generous benefits.
According to recent stories in the New York Times and the Boston Globe, retired teachers today have much more generous benefits.
"Retired teachers today have much more generous benefits." Okay. I'll check out those articles (it's probably the same article run in each paper), but that doesn't say that teachers working today don't need higher wages because they already have adequate pension investment and sufficient health insurance benefits at retirement age. I still want to know who Jubilayhee is speaking for, because the last I knew everybody's pension plans are suffering and health care benefits (for active and retired workers) are a crap shoot.
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I've been working as an RN for 2 years and I definitely don't make that kind of money!! I make 22/hr. I'm a BSN prepared nurse and work in an ICU. I live on the east coast.