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Arghh, am I the only one is tired of systematic cheating

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CEUs, BLS/ACLS renewals, and general state requirements you name it. Cheating, cheating, and more no shame cheating. Am I the only one who finds it disturbing and is the problem as systematic as I believe it to be?

Perhaps I am naive but how are people cheating on BLS certification/renewal? I am not aware of this in the crowd I know.

doodlebuttRN

Has 13 years experience.

Huh? Please be more specific... what 'systemic cheating' are you seeing on ACLS/BLS? On CEUs? I don't understand. I absolutely do not see this, either.

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meanmaryjean, DNP, RN

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia. Has 40 years experience.

OP likes to stir an imaginary pot at times.

Sour Lemon

Has 9 years experience.

CEUs, BLS/ACLS renewals, and general state requirements you name it. Cheating, cheating, and more no shame cheating. Am I the only one who finds it disturbing and is the problem as systematic as I believe it to be?

It happens. I enrolled in a last-minute BLS renewal class once upon a time. Then, I got a call saying that the class was cancelled but the instructor would "run through" it with me if I stopped by her near-by apartment. I was over-due and desperate, so I headed over. I paid her the money and she gave me the card explaining that she was "really busy". I guess I could have refused and reported her, but I took the card I needed for work the next day and I left.

llg, PhD, RN

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development. Has 43 years experience.

It happens. I enrolled in a last-minute BLS renewal class once upon a time. Then, I got a call saying that the class was cancelled but the instructor would "run through" it with me if I stopped by her near-by apartment. I was over-due and desperate, so I headed over. I paid her the money and she gave me the card explaining that she was "really busy". I guess I could have refused and reported her, but I took the card I needed for work the next day and I left.

So you are the one who cheated! You are complaining about your own behavior!

Where I work is now all computerized. You go into a room, log in, and take the test. I overheard one person being paid to take the test for someone else.

Imaginary pot. Like my thread saying some nurses chart things that never happened. It happens. Nurses aren't all angels

Sour lemon, may have been in the wrong,but the instructor was too. Like I said systematic.

Sour Lemon

Has 9 years experience.

So you are the one who cheated! You are complaining about your own behavior!

I'm not sure how I'm complaining about my own behavior ...I'm simply describing it and what led up to it. And although my situation was somewhat subtle and completely unexpected, I've also heard of people very directly selling CPR renewal cards.

I've known two BLS instructors who stated they would just sign a card for people who paid for the class.

Wshhhh disturbing... I would definitely report anyone doing this.

xoemmylouox, ASN, RN

Has 13 years experience.

I guess I never knew you could "cheat" like that. This being said, BLS CPR is pretty simple. Especially now with the recent changes. I'm not sure why anyone would WANT to let alone NEED to cheat on it. You attend a 3-4 hour class and take an exam. Pretty simple stuff to me. I teach it myself and I can tell you I won't issue a card to any healthcare provider who can't pass something that simple.

djh123

Specializes in LTC, Rehab. Has 5 years experience.

A co-worker told me about someone else who was supposedly certified but would renew your BLS card if you just paid her.

Sour Lemon

Has 9 years experience.

I guess I never knew you could "cheat" like that. This being said, BLS CPR is pretty simple. Especially now with the recent changes. I'm not sure why anyone would WANT to let alone NEED to cheat on it. You attend a 3-4 hour class and take an exam. Pretty simple stuff to me. I teach it myself and I can tell you I won't issue a card to any healthcare provider who can't pass something that simple.

I don't think anyone finds the class difficult to pass, just time consuming. Although I wouldn't seek to buy a card outright, I admit that I have a strong preference for a fast class over a slow one. Although there may be a change here or there, most of what's included in a four hour class is old news.

bgxyrnf, MSN, RN

Specializes in Med-Tele; ED; ICU. Has 10 years experience.

Well, I have known a BLS instructor who would provide cards for a very small fee to people that s/he worked with and knew well. The reasoning was something like, "I've been in multiple codes with you, I've seen you do CPR on real people, in less-than-ideal circumstances, you know your stuff... it's a waste of time for you sit through the renewal class which is partly just an AHA fundraiser."

It seemed a reasonable attitude on her/his part.

applesxoranges, BSN, RN

Specializes in ER.

When I was a BLS instructor, I made people take the computer class and I would help them if they needed it. Then we did check offs. I remember doing check offs in a fast track room. Like 10 staff members came down and were checked off because it was useful (night shift). More companies need to do night time check offs.