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traumaRUs has 25 years experience as a MSN, APRN and works as a Asst Community Manager @ allnurses.

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Have we become a nation of slugs, so offended by a simple old-time Christmas song that we want to ban it from the radio? Where does this leave us in real life? You are reading page 11 of Are We Too PC?. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

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Well, it all depends on you definition of PC.

If PC behavior means I don't have to listen to my patient use the n-word to describe one of my co-workers, then I am all for it!

I live and work in Kentucky, and during the past year, I have been amazed by the amount and frequency of racist outbursts from patients.

If PC behavior zips shut the mouths of racists, hooray.

One night, I worked with a nurse who was born in Japan, and has a Japanese first name.

The other nurses and techs, call her "Kamikaze." They thought they were being playful, I suppose. I think they were being ignorant.

I told this nurse: I will not call you Kamikaze. I will call you by your name.

She smiled and said: I know. What is wrong with them? They are so ignorant!

She didn't feel comfortable speaking up for herself because she was an agency nurse, and the minority.

Happy to be PC!

There are limits to everything. "Kamikaze" needs to educate those who call her that. Nicely, humbly educate them as to what kamikaze really was/is. And she, assuming she is not old enough to have lived through WW2, assuming she knows little or nothing about the way the Japanese are said to have treated civilians and POW's during the war, needs to learn about these painful truths.

There are at least 2 sides to every story.

Are we too PC? Yes.

I recently watched "Animal Farm". Hadn't read it or watched it for years. Very eye-opening, a good reminder that we are all fallible, all corruptible, power corrupts.

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missmollie has 4 years experience as a ADN, BSN and works as a RN.

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Those making a fuss about the song also want all of society to conform to their beliefs, rather than taking responsibility for themselves and switching the station.

My mom always said that the only person you can change is you. We can't force others to change, but I feel the younger generation are going to try.

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Baby, It's Cold Outside, was written during a time in which women had no right to their own sexuality.

I dispute that it is 'rapey.'

What does that even mean? It is either rape, or it isn't. How is anything rapey? Is that even a word?

Let's take a look at another song; My Old Kentucky Home.

Written by Stephen Foster, it is sung each first Saturday in May, prior to the Kentucky Derby, by some 150,000 people.

Check out those lyrics!

They reference "darkies."

Should those lyrics be changed?

Absolutely!

Nobody, in modern times should be singing such lyrics.

Everybody should be offended.

Now you want to tell everyone what to sing? And what should or should not offend them?

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There are limits to everything. "Kamikaze" needs to educate those who call her that. Nicely, humbly educate them as to what kamikaze really was/is. And she, assuming she is not old enough to have lived through WW2, assuming she knows little or nothing about the way the Japanese are said to have treated civilians and POW's during the war, needs to learn about these painful truths.

There are at least 2 sides to every story.

Are we too PC? Yes.

I recently watched "Animal Farm". Hadn't read it or watched it for years. Very eye-opening, a good reminder that we are all fallible, all corruptible, power corrupts.

I really don't understand your comment.

First, the meaning of the word kamikaze, isn't what makes it offensive.

Secondly, are you under some grand illusion that Americans always behave honorably?

Gee, I hate to burst that bubble with a dose of reality.

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Now you want to tell everyone what to sing? And what should or should not offend them?

Well, if you see nothing wrong with people singing about darkies, you really are kooky!!!!

I suggest you keep your racist outlook to yourself because it could get you into trouble.

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HangInThere has 5 years experience and works as a Staff Nurse.

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When someone I work with whispers something to me, chances is are it's not kind and not PC. I don't tolerate it.

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NurseCard has 13 years experience as a ADN and works as a RN.

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Well, it all depends on you definition of PC.

If PC behavior means I don't have to listen to my patient use the n-word to describe one of my co-workers, then I am all for it!

I live and work in Kentucky, and during the past year, I have been amazed by the amount and frequency of racist outbursts from patients.

I know I'm late to the party but.. ;)

See, I don't see this much. You know I'm in KY too. Maybe it's the part of KY that

I'm in, but I just don't see it... or very seldomly. I do have black coworkers, too.

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heron has 40 years experience and works as a bedside nurse on hospice inpatient unit.

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Those making a fuss about the song also want all of society to conform to their beliefs, rather than taking responsibility for themselves and switching the station.

My mom always said that the only person you can change is you. We can't force others to change, but I feel the younger generation are going to try.

Curious take on the subject when "anti-PC" sentiment is just another way of refusing to take any responsibility for what comes out of your mouth.

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When someone I work with whispers something to me, chances is are it's not kind and not PC. I don't tolerate it.

You are absolutely right.

When co-workers called the Japanese nurse by that slur, I was dumbfounded.

I am not a native of Kentucky, and I am often taken aback by the blatant, in your face racism.

Several patients have refused to have Black nurses. One patient's family member excused the racism by saying: My mother is an old, racist hillbilly.

Yeah, this country could stand to be more PC.

And that's because it is apparently very difficult for segments of the population to be respectful to others if left on their own.

Again, read the results of the NPR/Marist poll.

Nobody following this thread will be surprised.

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I know I'm late to the party but.. ;)

See, I don't see this much. You know I'm in KY too. Maybe it's the part of KY that

I'm in, but I just don't see it... or very seldomly. I do have black coworkers, too.

I am just down the road from you, in central KY.

Are you unfamiliar with the words to My Old Kentucky Home?

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NurseCard has 13 years experience as a ADN and works as a RN.

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Baby, It's Cold Outside, was written during a time in which women had no right to their own sexuality.

I dispute that it is 'rapey.'

What does that even mean? It is either rape, or it isn't. How is anything rapey? Is that even a word?

Let's take a look at another song; My Old Kentucky Home.

Written by Stephen Foster, it is sung each first Saturday in May, prior to the Kentucky Derby, by some 150,000 people.

Check out those lyrics!

They reference "darkies."

Should those lyrics be changed?

Absolutely!

Nobody, in modern times should be singing such lyrics.

Everybody should be offended.

a) It's a long song. I don't think the crowd sits at the KY Derby and

sings the whole song.

b) The controversy about that verse is way old. I actually thought

that it was changed years ago. Maybe not.

c) I'm starting to think you don't like it here. ;) I promise we aren't

all backwoods hillbillies. We really truly aren't.

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NurseCard has 13 years experience as a ADN and works as a RN.

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My Old Kentucky Home

The sun shines bright in the old Kentucky home,

Tis summer, the people are gay;

The corn-top's ripe and the meadow's in the bloom

While the birds make music all the day.

The young folks roll on the little cabin floor

All merry, all happy and bright;

By 'n by hard times comes a knocking at the door

Then my old Kentucky home, Good-night!

Chorus:

Weep no more my lady.

Oh! Weep no more today!

We will sing one song

For my old Kentucky home

For the old Kentucky home, far away.

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Uhhuhuhuhuh... You said "gay"...

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Edit: I am just realizing, in the very first stanza, the

word "people", if I'm not mistaken, used to be "darkies".

So I stand corrected, it is at the very beginning of the

song.

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