Any nurses pursue master degree that is not related to nursing?

Jedrnurse, BSN, RN · Mar 18, 2020

1 hour ago, Undercat said:
Let me get this straight. She can't pay her first school loan so so plans to go to school until she dies so she won't have to pay loans back:)?

I know. As a taxpayer that kind of frosts my cornflakes...

ajdizzle43, LPN, LVN · Mar 18, 2020

5 hours ago, T-Bird78 said:
Not me, but one of my coworkers is an MA (medical assistant) who got a degree in healthcare technology. She is now going to get her masters in healthcare leadership JUST because she doesn’t want to start repaying her student loans. She’s not pursuing nursing at all. She said when she finishes this program she’s going to look into doctorate programs because as long as she’s in school, she doesn’t have to pay loans back. Me, I’m still an LPN with no plans to go further at this time.

Masters in Healthcare Leadership...so they not have to pay...I'm sure there is something in this mindset, but I'm tired from looking for PPE unicorns all night at work ?

Caprica6 · Mar 18, 2020

I have a Master of Public Administration.

Katie82, RN · Mar 21, 2020

I took my ASN to a BBA in Health Care Administration then a MBA in Health Care Management. It has become a trend, my classes were filled with RNs and even a few docs.

T-Bird78 · Mar 25, 2020

On 3/18/2020 at 3:59 PM, Undercat said:
Let me get this straight. She can't pay her first school loan so so plans to go to school until she dies so she won't have to pay loans back:)?

That’s what she said. I guess she’s thinking you have to start repaying loans 6 months after you graduate but if she’s still in school then it doesn’t apply to her. She’s in her early 30’s so she’s got a LOT of school if she’s never going to repay her loans! LOL.

SarahMaria, MSN, RN · Apr 2, 2020

It's not a masters' degree, but I obtained a Doctorate in Law before going to nursing school.

guest966516 · Apr 2, 2020

I'm an RN and I just finished my MBA. Planning on working on a second degree in Management and Leadership. I'm not doing this "FNP" thing EVERY nurse runs to, like there's nothing else to be done. If I can help it, NO MORE NURSING for me. Plus I SEE how absolutely MISERABLE some FNP's are. Plus, I currently literally make only SLIGHTLY less than them. Like only a couple thousand. LOL! NOPE. No thanks.

I'm gonna instead go to where I can be the BOSS, in higher administration and still make the same, if not more than FNP's. Plus, I gets to be their boss too. LOL!

Go on, I'm new here, so I suspect others will not like what I said. Attack away! :.)

guest966516 · Apr 2, 2020

Cont'd from above post...

Plus, Hell NO, I aint struggling with clinicals no more.

I have worked with some poor, sorry NP's who I could run rings around them, for all their training. I was enrolled in a FNP-DNP program, and when I realized what it was, I "nope'd" the hell out.

Good NP's are in short supply. Too many nurses RUN to FNP school for what? For prescriptive authority? More pay? Nurses with experience make almost just as much as most NP's. LOL! Sure, Nurses don't have the privilege to see patients, but we know just as much about meds and taking care of patients already, and how many nurses end up recommending drugs to MD's and NP's anyways? Be honest. Nurses do that all the time. How many of you are paid to help the MD or NP with their work? Nada.

No, I say, do something else. I thought about it, and there is just as much shortage of Management as there are FNP's.

I instead, RAN and got my MBA. Now, I will go out there and seek someone to give me a chance, or perhaps find a business mentor in my organization, and gain that management experience.

I say, go for something else OTHER than FNP. As someone mentioned earlier, this is becoming a trend, and more and more schools are offering shorter MBA's.

buckchaser10 · Apr 3, 2020

7 hours ago, SleykRN said:
Cont'd from above post...
Plus, Hell NO, I aint struggling with clinicals no more.
I have worked with some poor, sorry NP's who I could run rings around them, for all their training. I was enrolled in a FNP-DNP program, and when I realized what it was, I "nope'd" the hell out.
Good NP's are in short supply. Too many nurses RUN to FNP school for what? For prescriptive authority? More pay? Nurses with experience make almost just as much as most NP's. LOL! Sure, Nurses don't have the privilege to see patients, but we know just as much about meds and taking care of patients already, and how many nurses end up recommending drugs to MD's and NP's anyways? Be honest. Nurses do that all the time. How many of you are paid to help the MD or NP with their work? Nada.
No, I say, do something else. I thought about it, and there is just as much shortage of Management as there are FNP's.
I instead, RAN and got my MBA. Now, I will go out there and seek someone to give me a chance, or perhaps find a business mentor in my organization, and gain that management experience.
I say, go for something else OTHER than FNP. As someone mentioned earlier, this is becoming a trend, and more and more schools are offering shorter MBA's.

I too am in an MBA. Even though other people here have a strong dislike for upper management they do not try to work any of their own into those ranks. An MBA prepares you for the business aspect but no matter what you are always a nurse. You are able to see patients rather than dollar signs. I plan to finish my MBA and get an MSN or DNP in executive leadership with an end goal of CNO or CEO of my local health system. Ultimately it is about giving back to the community that raised me and ensuring that community is able to live their lives to their fullest potential.

Saying you are getting a degree other than nursing is like a cuss word around here at times.

ajdizzle43, LPN, LVN · Apr 3, 2020

On 2/3/2020 at 10:49 AM, MelEpiRN said:
I have a Master's in Public Health (Epidemiology). Yes, still healthcare, but a different thought process/ approach on how health could/ should be managed. I wanted to be a disease investigator for the CDC.
Could have used the degree for lots of different jobs but I ended up back in the hospital (but not a bedside nurse). I'm happy with my career path so it worked out.

How's that degree working for you now...?

Such a different perspective of human and societal spectrum whenever pandemics occur and a nurse is using GIS instead of a EMAR...

guest966516 · Apr 3, 2020

8 hours ago, buckchaser10 said:
I too am in an MBA. Even though other people here have a strong dislike for upper management they do not try to work any of their own into those ranks. An MBA prepares you for the business aspect but no matter what you are always a nurse. You are able to see patients rather than dollar signs. I plan to finish my MBA and get an MSN or DNP in executive leadership with an end goal of CNO or CEO of my local health system. Ultimately it is about giving back to the community that raised me and ensuring that community is able to live their lives to their fullest potential.
Saying you are getting a degree other than nursing is like a cuss word around here at times.

Correct! I see that nonsense all the time. I've worked with so many horrible, lazy NP's. And the good ones? LOL! They were working so hard to make up for the bad ones, they were terribly, irrevocably burnt out.

No thanks. I am proud of my decision. I don't want anymore nursing. I know this is ALLNURSES forum, but I will shout to the freaking rooftop. Nursing is NOW OVER-RATED. Yes, we garner the community respect. Yes, we have a good salary. But the glory days of nursing are gone. Long gone.

I would listen to older nurses talking about what nursing USED to be. Not anymore. Nowadays, you better not forget to cover EVERY inch of that ***, or you're done. Go on, leave a centimeter of your *** uncovered in today's nursing world. You will fry. You will die a painful death of blame and condescension. You will be blamed for everything. And all that hard work and dedication? LOL! Well, you got nurses week right? LOL! Go on, take that "nurses week" appreciation for all your hard work. Go on, suck a Florence Nightingale lolipop! LOL! Come on.

Now sure, I realize that management has its flaws and downsides too, but its worth it, and it is the logical next step up.

Nurses will fight me on this, but I also have the precious "Evidence Based Practice" garbage we nurses love so much, to back it up.

Many theorists propose that the "NP is not the next logical or professional step for nursing. No. Not at all. It is the Nurse Manager.

Alot of people are confused by this. They think: " oh well, I'm an RN, let me get my FNP. Ho hum, La dee da de doo."

Nope. It's the Nurse Manager. The NP actually helps the MD and the Medical Profession, NOT the nursing profession. Think about it.

How does the NP advance nursing? It doesnt. It helps doctors. Yes, help doctors. Oh no! Shock of all shocks!

Yes, you have some wonderful NP's who will come to work and do a wonderful job, helping the nurses, but technically, that is NOT their job description.

For all those that doubt me? Go look that s*** up. You might be sorely surprised how much the NP serves the doctor, than it does the actual nursing profession.

I realized all this by paying attention and studying my *** off. I listened intently to older nurses and their experiences, as young nurses should, (even if we don't like their self-described, "I'm the best nurse", "I've seen it all", all-knowing, wise, condescending attitudes) its wise to at least pay attention) because its just smart to listen.

Now I get to be cynical, but I'm also being honest. For all those who dislike my tone, OK, I know I write somewhat harshly, but my words are true.

Agree completely with my collegue above. Get something other than the FNP. That is, if you intend on ACTUALLY helping the nursing profession.